Guest Interview - The Amazing KAREL

100:00:06,390 --> 00:00:07,170Hey everybody. 200:00:07,170 --> 00:00:18,120How you doing? This is Ray Renati and you have reached Green Room on Air, my little corner of the various Internets as George W used to say. 300:00:18,430 --> 00:00:19,800Hope you're doing great. 400:00:20,130 --> 00:00:24,300It's a rainy day here where I am in Palo Alto, California. 500:00:25,050 --> 00:00:26,820Looks like it's the middle of December. 600:00:26,880 --> 00:00:36,510Decembre, depending on which language you speak or pig Latin December day. 700:00:37,020 --> 00:00:37,830Yeah. 800:00:38,220 --> 00:00:41,940I used to speak Pig Latin when I was a young boy for fun. 900:00:42,030 --> 00:00:42,840I don't anymore. 1000:00:42,845 --> 00:00:51,810I'm kind of rusty with my pig Latin, but maybe I'll get on that and improve it and I'll do a whole show in Pig Latin. 1100:00:51,815 --> 00:00:59,490Who knows? Who knows? Hey, guess what? Today we have a very, very special guest. 1200:01:00,780 --> 00:01:11,040He is someone who has actually made history in his life and in his career, and has been a trailblazer for the L G B T Q community in California. 1300:01:12,120 --> 00:01:19,560He's an all round entertainer who's been in the business for years and is just as comfortable on stage. 1400:01:20,505 --> 00:01:29,115Or in front of a camera, or a microphone, or in a recording studio, anywhere where entertainers abide. 1500:01:30,255 --> 00:01:42,155He's been entertaining audiences in some of the biggest radio markets in the country, Los Angeles and San Francisco, and on the number one, Radio stations in both markets. 1600:01:42,825 --> 00:01:46,365K f I in LA and K G O in San Francisco. 1700:01:46,515 --> 00:01:50,835Well, KGO, isn't really number one anymore but they were for years now. 1800:01:50,835 --> 00:01:56,370They're sports Betting radio station, and we won't talk about that because it's a travesty and it pisses me off. 1900:01:56,370 --> 00:02:04,860Anyway, not only that, but my guess is written for Billboard Magazine and has even been a featured artist in Billboard. 2000:02:05,850 --> 00:02:06,690That's right. 2100:02:07,650 --> 00:02:19,545He's also been with the Huffington Post since it started and has published two books, not to be, not to not to mention being an an editor for magazines such as The Advocate. 2200:02:20,565 --> 00:02:34,215You might have seen him on every major Cable Network as a guest, or even caught him as a pioneer in the recent trend of reality TV for five years on cable and wait for it. 2300:02:34,710 --> 00:02:37,290He even has an app. 2400:02:38,010 --> 00:02:38,640That's right. 2500:02:40,110 --> 00:02:46,496.66666667He has a very uh, successful podcast that's number 200 in Canada. 2600:02:47,546.66666667 --> 00:03:02,696.66666667That's pretty darn to good when you consider the fact that there are five, between three and 5 million podcasts out there, and my guest name is Karel Many of you may know him from the radio. 2700:03:03,280 --> 00:03:18,490very successful Corll Cast podcast Corll, Charles Corll Blee, but he goes by Corll, just like Prince Goes by Prince Madonna, goes by Madonna, and Elvis goes by Elvis. 2800:03:20,110 --> 00:03:20,530All righty. 2900:03:21,230 --> 00:03:30,180So without any further ado, as they say in show business, Let's get to it. 3000:03:34,680 --> 00:03:41,465So I was just thinking we can just talk about, your career and and, and things and everything that you're doing now. 3100:03:42,455 --> 00:03:42,725Yeah. 3200:03:42,725 --> 00:03:42,995Yeah. 3300:03:42,995 --> 00:03:44,535I, I'm right with you. 3400:03:46,215 --> 00:03:51,385I think that, I think that you and I are I think like a year and a day apart in age. 3500:03:51,385 --> 00:03:54,715I think your birthday's November 7th, is that right? It is, yes, it is. 3600:03:55,285 --> 00:03:57,655The only reason I know that is because mine's November 8th. 3700:03:58,115 --> 00:03:58,735Ah, okay. 3800:03:58,735 --> 00:03:58,975Yeah. 3900:03:59,185 --> 00:04:01,140And it I think I'm a year older than you. 4000:04:01,650 --> 00:04:03,120Yeah, I'm 60. 4100:04:03,450 --> 00:04:03,570Yeah. 4200:04:03,575 --> 00:04:04,350I'm 61. 4300:04:04,355 --> 00:04:06,720So yeah. 4400:04:06,940 --> 00:04:22,780So I share a lot of your health concerns and one of the things I love when I listen to your show is I feel like I found, I found a comrade in arms, as it were in terms of all that, a 60 year old body, they pretty much behave the same way or misbehave. 4500:04:23,050 --> 00:04:23,350Yeah. 4600:04:23,350 --> 00:04:23,770Yeah. 4700:04:24,130 --> 00:04:28,525And in terms of diet, like every little thing you eat, Yes. 4800:04:29,635 --> 00:04:30,385Or don't eat. 4900:04:30,595 --> 00:04:31,795Or don't eat No. 5000:04:31,795 --> 00:04:32,785Put down the cookie. 5100:04:33,025 --> 00:04:33,175Yeah. 5200:04:33,175 --> 00:04:36,565Either goes on the body or it doesn't, depending on what you do with it. 5300:04:36,835 --> 00:04:37,075Yeah. 5400:04:37,075 --> 00:04:37,435It's funny. 5500:04:37,435 --> 00:04:43,550I was Cynthia Sta, who runs Lenora Medical, she once told me that if chocolate cake, I. 5600:04:43,550 --> 00:04:49,150Appeared like as a lump in your body, like just sort of popped out of your hip right after you ate it. 5700:04:49,180 --> 00:04:49,810You wouldn't eat it. 5800:04:50,020 --> 00:04:50,561You would never eat. 5900:04:50,940 --> 00:04:57,730But, but, but because cookies, cakes, and pies, accumulate all over gradually then hey, I'll have the, yeah. 6000:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,080So now every time I ate something bad, I'm like, oh God, it's just gonna pop out of my shoulder or something. 6100:05:02,470 --> 00:05:02,760Yeah. 6200:05:03,250 --> 00:05:03,370Yeah. 6300:05:03,370 --> 00:05:04,000No kidding. 6400:05:04,060 --> 00:05:06,580I mean, for me it's all goes to my midsection. 6500:05:06,580 --> 00:05:12,120Like I have no fat anywhere else on my body, but But, you've encouraged me a lot to really watch my diet. 6600:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,770I've, I am not a. 6700:05:15,030 --> 00:05:19,890Complete vegan now, but I, I don't, I, I know meat. 6800:05:19,890 --> 00:05:21,780I'm a vegan, but God knows if I'm complete. 6900:05:22,350 --> 00:05:24,510Well, I don't, I don't eat meat because of you. 7000:05:24,510 --> 00:05:25,440I don't not eat meat. 7100:05:26,010 --> 00:05:26,520Well, don't eat meat. 7200:05:26,520 --> 00:05:27,200Not because of meat. 7300:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,460Don't eat meat because it's filthy and No, no. 7400:05:29,465 --> 00:05:33,240Just because of you of listening to you so much about that. 7500:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,910The data, just every day the data comes out that confirms it and. 7600:05:37,480 --> 00:05:42,695more and more in the entertainment industry, I find that, entertainers are heating the call. 7700:05:42,975 --> 00:05:52,635In fact, Oscar, Grammy, Emmy, Tony, all of the awards dinners now at the dinners, they're either all plant-based or in fact, the Spirit Awards were just all plant-based. 7800:05:52,635 --> 00:05:54,705There was, there were no non-vegan options. 7900:05:55,120 --> 00:06:02,060And that's because A sustainability, but b a lot of people in entertainment now have made the switch and continue to do so. 8000:06:02,060 --> 00:06:06,010The biggest Lizzo yesterday gave a shout out to Fat Vegans cuz she's vegan, but she's heavy. 8100:06:06,610 --> 00:06:10,725so she gave a shout out to all the fat vegans and I thought that just sounds like a restaurant chain fat vegan. 8200:06:11,035 --> 00:06:14,545But, but so yeah, no, it's, it's, it's time. 8300:06:14,545 --> 00:06:18,565The planet wants us to, our bodies want us to, all the research says. 8400:06:19,145 --> 00:06:22,535Cardiovascular wise and just, all other organs in your body. 8500:06:22,535 --> 00:06:23,375Like it better. 8600:06:23,380 --> 00:06:23,555Yeah. 8700:06:23,745 --> 00:06:26,285Unless you, eat Oreos and stuff all day. 8800:06:26,535 --> 00:06:31,125But, just swallowing a plant-based diet, it's the way, and, you gotta have more energy nowadays. 8900:06:31,130 --> 00:06:34,965I was just telling a friend, in the entertainment industry, I used to fight being gay. 9000:06:35,215 --> 00:06:36,595That was always the big obstacle. 9100:06:36,595 --> 00:06:37,196Oh, you're gay, you're gay. 9200:06:37,405 --> 00:06:38,365It's like, there was a news flash. 9300:06:38,365 --> 00:06:38,675Of course. 9400:06:38,675 --> 00:06:44,215I mean, but now I'm white and 60 and so there's, there's all these different. 9500:06:44,575 --> 00:06:46,015There's always something to fight. 9600:06:46,015 --> 00:06:46,105Yes. 9700:06:46,395 --> 00:06:53,535Which means that you always have to have stamina to do it because the only people that survive in this business are the people who continue going. 9800:06:53,835 --> 00:06:58,545I mean, many, a fabulous singer, actor, dancer, broadcaster, broadcasting, used to mean spreading seeds. 9900:06:58,545 --> 00:07:00,950By the way all, all of these people. 10000:07:01,750 --> 00:07:05,535many fabulous people have just stopped because they're just, they're tired of it. 10100:07:05,565 --> 00:07:08,125They get tired they get tired of the rejection. 10200:07:08,125 --> 00:07:13,025They get tired of having to just cata call what's his name? I'm, I can see his face. 10300:07:13,025 --> 00:07:14,075I'm, I know his name. 10400:07:14,075 --> 00:07:15,185He's been in a million things. 10500:07:16,015 --> 00:07:18,035But he still auditions. 10600:07:18,055 --> 00:07:22,325David Arquette still tapes, auditions at home and, and does videotaped. 10700:07:22,325 --> 00:07:26,620I mean, he's fucking David Arquette and yet they still require him to audition. 10800:07:26,620 --> 00:07:29,020It's like in Streisand song, putting it together, everything. 10900:07:29,025 --> 00:07:31,030Well, Stephen Sondheim song, putting it together. 11000:07:31,035 --> 00:07:32,920Everything you do, you still audition. 11100:07:33,260 --> 00:07:35,210And yeah, and it's, it never ends. 11200:07:35,270 --> 00:07:37,340I mean, she couldn't, that's a, a great. 11300:07:37,580 --> 00:07:38,510Case right there. 11400:07:38,690 --> 00:07:44,450Barbara, her whole career wanted to make her last movie be Gypsy and she wanted to play Mama Rose. 11500:07:44,940 --> 00:07:48,370She could not get it funded just could not get it funded. 11600:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,320And so now it'll probably not happen. 11700:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,680She's 81, 82 years old, so she, she'd be Grand Mamamama rose. 11800:07:53,960 --> 00:07:55,250So it's probably not gonna happen. 11900:07:56,050 --> 00:08:07,760And when you're at Barbara Streisand and you can't get a movie made because you can't get it funded because people don't know, oh, how's it gonna be? And do people wanna see? Because her first movie, funny Girl. 12000:08:07,765 --> 00:08:08,140Mm-hmm. 12100:08:08,540 --> 00:08:12,650And her, and she wanted it to be the la the, the Last Gypsy cuz they're written by the same people. 12200:08:12,890 --> 00:08:13,040Yeah. 12300:08:13,300 --> 00:08:14,390the, the music is the same. 12400:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,960And so she wanted, she thought that would be sort of a great career capping thing. 12500:08:18,230 --> 00:08:19,670It never, it's probably not gonna happen. 12600:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,240And nowadays she just doesn't, she's 82, she's married 25 years, she's got grandkids. 12700:08:24,510 --> 00:08:32,745The hustle in her has sort of, I don't wanna speak for her, but you can tell the hustle in her has sort of, Welled. 12800:08:33,075 --> 00:08:36,495She doesn't need it as much as she might have needed it years ago. 12900:08:36,525 --> 00:08:45,375I mean, you would think that Barbara Streisand wanting to play Marose in Gypsy is a no-brainer, right? You would think, but not Hollywood. 13000:08:45,735 --> 00:08:45,885No. 13100:08:45,885 --> 00:08:48,465And remember she's pitching it to people who are 30 years old. 13200:08:48,645 --> 00:08:48,825Yeah. 13300:08:48,825 --> 00:08:52,095They don't get, don't even know what Gypsy they, no idea what Gypsy is. 13400:08:52,095 --> 00:08:53,525They don't know who Mama Rose is. 13500:08:53,735 --> 00:08:57,795someone tell me, when is it my turn? They have, they have no idea. 13600:08:58,785 --> 00:08:59,955They wouldn't know Natalie Wood. 13700:08:59,985 --> 00:09:02,535They, they'd think it was a kind, that's something you make your deck out of. 13800:09:02,565 --> 00:09:05,105Oh, it has to be, so they wouldn't know. 13900:09:05,345 --> 00:09:15,585So, it's, it is, it was a hard pitch and she, I guess she got tired of pitching it and, she follows the first rule of thumb in Hollywood that I never did, which has never used your own money for a project. 14000:09:15,955 --> 00:09:17,965But, she, that's why I'm broke. 14100:09:18,305 --> 00:09:25,605But, she wasn't, she has, she could easily come up with 40, 50 million but she's not, she's not dumb. 14200:09:25,605 --> 00:09:26,265She's not gonna. 14300:09:26,730 --> 00:09:34,980No, she and she shouldn't have to, but, so I think you have to have energy and you have to continue to have that drive. 14400:09:35,430 --> 00:09:39,210And if you're not healthy, the industry is just gonna be too heavy on you. 14500:09:39,215 --> 00:09:40,560It's just gonna be too much. 14600:09:40,560 --> 00:09:41,250You're gonna quit. 14700:09:41,550 --> 00:09:41,700Yeah. 14800:09:41,705 --> 00:09:49,315I mean, the other problem with her funding it is there would be sort of this knowledge all the time that she funded it, it wasn't approved by the studios and. 14900:09:49,775 --> 00:09:52,730it would be this constant, oh, I don't think people today care about that shit. 15000:09:52,730 --> 00:09:55,470I, I don't think that audiences care about where the money comes from. 15100:09:55,470 --> 00:09:57,480They have no idea where the money No, I didn't mean the audiences. 15200:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,490I just meant like people in the industry. 15300:09:59,550 --> 00:10:01,700I don't, well, she doesn't care about Hollywood and never have That's true. 15400:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,510I don't either. 15500:10:02,590 --> 00:10:04,980screw these executives is getting it made. 15600:10:04,980 --> 00:10:05,450That's true. 15700:10:05,820 --> 00:10:09,690the art of, and from that same song, the Art of Making Art is putting it together. 15800:10:09,770 --> 00:10:10,060Yeah. 15900:10:10,065 --> 00:10:10,260Yeah. 16000:10:10,420 --> 00:10:14,525So however you get a project done, do it. 16100:10:14,775 --> 00:10:14,965Yeah. 16200:10:14,965 --> 00:10:17,925And if, and then nowadays, if you have to fund it yourself, fund it yourself. 16300:10:17,925 --> 00:10:18,975If you believe in it, do it. 16400:10:19,215 --> 00:10:19,505Yeah. 16500:10:19,510 --> 00:10:19,695Yeah. 16600:10:19,755 --> 00:10:20,985She's just old school. 16700:10:21,285 --> 00:10:26,705And when you've been famous for, let's she 82, so she's been famous for 61 years. 16800:10:27,505 --> 00:10:31,525When you've been famous for 61 years, you kind of don't wanna have to do it yourself. 16900:10:32,265 --> 00:10:33,435Right, right. 17000:10:34,005 --> 00:10:35,655I, I can totally relate to you. 17100:10:35,655 --> 00:10:43,695When, when, when you've said that now being a 60 year old white man in entertainment is the thing you're fighting against because it's exactly the same for me. 17200:10:43,700 --> 00:10:49,635I mean, as soon as I'm not a 24 year old, general non or non-binary trans gay. 17300:10:50,235 --> 00:10:50,445Right. 17400:10:51,005 --> 00:10:51,125Yeah. 17500:10:51,515 --> 00:10:52,175One of those things. 17600:10:52,175 --> 00:10:53,975And those are the things that are favored right now. 17700:10:53,975 --> 00:10:55,315And they're checking boxes. 17800:10:55,495 --> 00:10:55,855Yeah. 17900:10:55,855 --> 00:11:00,275they're like, oh, well we want, because they, their, one thing that they do is gonna be their whole diversity. 18000:11:00,425 --> 00:11:09,185I was told by the MO council once the motorcycle council I said, they would put me on all these bikes and everything and I would say, you need to do gay outreach, it, gay pride. 18100:11:09,185 --> 00:11:11,675And they, and they looked at me and said, you are our gay outreach. 18200:11:12,180 --> 00:11:12,660Oh, geez. 18300:11:13,005 --> 00:11:17,120And, and that, and so I checked that box for them. 18400:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,070Oh, yeah. 18500:11:18,070 --> 00:11:20,730Look, we're we in the motorcycle industry? We're not homophobic. 18600:11:20,730 --> 00:11:21,960We, we service carel. 18700:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,940It's like, yeah, but nobody else. 18800:11:24,430 --> 00:11:24,770Yeah. 18900:11:24,770 --> 00:11:32,880and so nowadays, well company, whether it's an entertainment company or just a regular company, they're looking at a hire to check like a whole bunch of boxes. 19000:11:33,030 --> 00:11:34,260Are you female? Yes. 19100:11:34,260 --> 00:11:36,750Are you part Latino and part black? Yes. 19200:11:36,755 --> 00:11:37,140Yes. 19300:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,480Are you, gendered non bond? Yes. 19400:11:39,500 --> 00:11:39,790Yeah. 19500:11:39,900 --> 00:11:43,310And so if one person checks all five boxes, that person gets the gig? Yes. 19600:11:43,370 --> 00:11:46,680And, and in San Francisco it's really blatant. 19700:11:46,680 --> 00:12:01,220I mean, like, they actually give you when you go to audition before the audition, they actually give you questionnaires that you have to fill out with all of those things in it that you just mentioned, which is amazing because for over a decade I was the only gay host working in San Francisco on K G O. 19800:12:01,220 --> 00:12:05,300There were no other gay hosts working on radio period talk or fm. 19900:12:05,690 --> 00:12:10,160And then the two gay guys got an an FM morning show and I'm forget Fernando and Greg, I think were their names. 20000:12:10,390 --> 00:12:14,170And they may still have a morning show, but then they were the other two gay people. 20100:12:14,170 --> 00:12:18,010They were on fm, I was on am and in a city known for its queerness. 20200:12:18,290 --> 00:12:19,970There were three gay people on the radio. 20300:12:20,180 --> 00:12:20,630Amazing. 20400:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,910And that yeah, that, that's pretty freaking amazing. 20500:12:24,060 --> 00:12:24,210Yeah. 20600:12:24,210 --> 00:12:27,540So, and now if they're gone, I don't know of any that are on the radio there. 20700:12:27,930 --> 00:12:34,890So, so for people who don't know, I mean, you have had an illustrious radio career, right? I mean, you started there in LA with, well Southern, call it historic and Yeah. 20800:12:34,895 --> 00:12:37,250They, they call some, call it historic, some call it iconic. 20900:12:37,620 --> 00:12:38,700It just makes me sound old. 21000:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,950But yeah, I always say I was gay and radio before it was fashionable. 21100:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,920Meaning it was a fight. 21200:12:44,535 --> 00:12:45,255There were nothing. 21300:12:45,285 --> 00:12:47,895There was nothing that sounded like us at all. 21400:12:48,085 --> 00:12:50,605No one that looked like us, no one that talked like us. 21500:12:51,035 --> 00:12:56,505And we got hired by the most conservative radio station in Los Angeles thanks to David Hall. 21600:12:56,755 --> 00:12:57,830And we followed Dr. 21700:12:57,830 --> 00:12:58,160Laura. 21800:12:58,160 --> 00:12:59,540So it went rush, limba, Dr. 21900:12:59,545 --> 00:13:01,950Laura and them and them being us. 22000:13:02,380 --> 00:13:07,240And we were a couple, we were the first gay couple in radio to ever have a drive time radio show. 22100:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,870It had never been done in any market in the United States, period. 22200:13:10,870 --> 00:13:11,620It just hadn't happened. 22300:13:11,620 --> 00:13:13,960And, and in the world at that point, it hadn't happened. 22400:13:14,450 --> 00:13:18,920And so we were at K F I and then Andrew died very suddenly in 2001. 22500:13:18,950 --> 00:13:27,380And I stayed at K F I for a couple years and then went on to K G O, where again, I was the only gay talk show host working in the San Francisco Bay area. 22600:13:27,470 --> 00:13:29,940Heard up and down the west coast on the number one a b C station. 22700:13:30,885 --> 00:13:36,085And, and was there for a decade or more and, breaking the ground there. 22800:13:36,265 --> 00:13:41,605That's why today when I see all these broadcasters that are queer or this or that, I just thought, all you need to say to me is thank you. 22900:13:42,035 --> 00:13:44,555Because I remember being humiliated by bosses. 23000:13:44,855 --> 00:13:48,225I remember having people tell me, we'd love to program your show, but you're just too gay. 23100:13:48,945 --> 00:13:50,925And, and having no repercussions for that. 23200:13:50,925 --> 00:13:52,755Just being able to say that to somebody. 23300:13:52,925 --> 00:13:53,215Yeah. 23400:13:53,515 --> 00:13:59,305I I w I came from before the Me Too, Mickey Loff at K G O was the biggest homophobia in the world, and he. 23500:13:59,305 --> 00:14:01,465Excused it by saying his best friend is gay. 23600:14:01,645 --> 00:14:01,795Yeah. 23700:14:01,795 --> 00:14:09,235His best friend up on child charges for molesting a 16 year old on a yacht, a sweater wearing queer Andrew and I used to call him. 23800:14:09,240 --> 00:14:09,585Mm-hmm. 23900:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,630Those very per sticky sort of sweater wrapped around the neck. 24000:14:13,630 --> 00:14:14,720Very whatever. 24100:14:14,795 --> 00:14:14,890Yeah. 24200:14:14,990 --> 00:14:22,160But no, Mickey made rules for me in radio that today I could sue him for, he can't be on the radio before seven o'clock. 24300:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,600Why? Because he sounds too gay. 24400:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,460So I could never do middays. 24500:14:25,460 --> 00:14:27,500I could never fill in for Ron Owens or whatever. 24600:14:27,680 --> 00:14:38,290Not I was filling in for everybody, but I couldn't fill in for anybody before seven in the evening because Mickey luck off at K G O Radio, who's a bastard said no he can't. 24700:14:38,650 --> 00:14:49,150One time there was a Christmas party and totally off the record, Christmas party people are showing their butt for this camera that got found on a table or their, this girl showed her boobs. 24800:14:49,390 --> 00:14:50,800So I flash it my butt. 24900:14:50,980 --> 00:14:51,340Dr. 25000:14:51,340 --> 00:14:52,150Bill Wattenberg. 25100:14:52,150 --> 00:14:56,200Another homophobia actually physically was allowed to physically attack me. 25200:14:56,290 --> 00:14:56,890I remember that. 25300:14:56,890 --> 00:14:56,950Yeah. 25400:14:56,950 --> 00:15:02,600After the K G O all stars, he wasn't fired for it, Because his best friend was Mickey Loff. 25500:15:02,870 --> 00:15:03,860Well, he didn't like that. 25600:15:03,860 --> 00:15:05,510I showed my butt at the Christmas party. 25700:15:05,690 --> 00:15:07,550I got flown up on Christmas Eve. 25800:15:07,670 --> 00:15:08,870I got reprimanded. 25900:15:09,050 --> 00:15:12,170No one else that did stuff for that camera got reprimanded. 26000:15:12,170 --> 00:15:12,920Just me. 26100:15:13,420 --> 00:15:33,550And so for d for Forever, at K G O radio, I had to jump higher, run faster, get better ratings, and when I had a hot mic incident, it gave them the excuse to get rid of me Mickey, because he, he tried and tried, but I got protected by the program director, Jack Swanson, who is a great guy and Trish Robbins, the assistant pd, who's a wonderful woman. 26200:15:33,700 --> 00:15:33,790Mm-hmm. 26300:15:34,030 --> 00:15:34,840They would protect me. 26400:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,340They would say, no, you're not firing him. 26500:15:36,340 --> 00:15:37,960He is got the numbers, he's got the audience. 26600:15:38,170 --> 00:15:42,550He's the one people ask about, when, when we're out at events, you're not firing. 26700:15:43,010 --> 00:15:46,280But finally there was a reason that they couldn't say no to. 26800:15:47,065 --> 00:15:48,715The silly Joe find the plumber incident. 26900:15:48,715 --> 00:15:48,775Yeah. 27000:15:48,775 --> 00:15:49,765Fuck Joe, the plumber. 27100:15:49,765 --> 00:15:50,065I hope. 27200:15:50,065 --> 00:15:50,515Fucking Joe. 27300:15:50,515 --> 00:15:51,775The plumber drops fucking dead. 27400:15:52,285 --> 00:15:58,705Said to John McCain during a break after writing an editorial for the Huffington Post about how we need to end hyperbole. 27500:15:58,855 --> 00:16:01,255Let's stop all this lipstick on a pig bullshit. 27600:16:01,405 --> 00:16:02,365Let's stop all this. 27700:16:02,365 --> 00:16:10,445Joe, the plumber who's not even a plumber, we're about to have an election that the first African American in the world, in the United States may become president. 27800:16:10,595 --> 00:16:12,215Let's talk about real issues. 27900:16:12,515 --> 00:16:15,215I had just finished writing that at 8 45. 28000:16:15,220 --> 00:16:15,395Yeah. 28100:16:15,575 --> 00:16:22,655And at 9 0 5, John McCain says, during a break to me, I'm gonna take Joe the plumber all the way to Washington and I'm pouring tea remotely. 28200:16:22,985 --> 00:16:28,716And they had put a brand new engineer on my show that night who left to go pee during the break and left the pot open. 28300:16:28,985 --> 00:16:29,275Yeah. 28400:16:29,415 --> 00:16:31,605And, and he was like 19 years old. 28500:16:31,610 --> 00:16:38,680Why are you putting a 19 year old engineer on a remote show? it's beyond me, so they fired me. 28600:16:38,680 --> 00:16:47,710But the public outcry was so great that after a year and a half they rehired me Well, because they don't pay engineers anything at radio stations, so No, they, they can't find people who know what they're doing. 28700:16:47,715 --> 00:16:48,020Right. 28800:16:48,220 --> 00:16:49,810Well, a lot of engineers know what they're doing. 28900:16:49,810 --> 00:16:50,950They just take the low pay. 29000:16:51,310 --> 00:16:51,790Yeah. 29100:16:51,795 --> 00:16:52,270Oh, I know. 29200:16:52,270 --> 00:16:56,440But like, it's, it's a, it is such a cutthroat industry. 29300:16:56,445 --> 00:16:57,250I, oh, yeah. 29400:16:57,340 --> 00:17:01,810I'm just blown away by radio and how one day you can be on top and the next day you're gone. 29500:17:02,020 --> 00:17:03,070And I can, well, that's everything. 29600:17:03,070 --> 00:17:03,570That's all. 29700:17:03,570 --> 00:17:08,315That's, That's, I know Tucker Carlson had no clue that his last show was that last Friday. 29800:17:08,505 --> 00:17:09,175That's true. 29900:17:09,215 --> 00:17:11,845I mean, you, you just, you don't, you don't ever know. 30000:17:11,875 --> 00:17:12,785You never know. 30100:17:12,785 --> 00:17:15,485That's why David Hall used to tell us every show is for all the marbles. 30200:17:15,485 --> 00:17:16,865Never escape through a show. 30300:17:17,105 --> 00:17:17,285Yeah. 30400:17:17,285 --> 00:17:19,175Because you just never know if it's gonna be your last. 30500:17:19,265 --> 00:17:19,555Yeah. 30600:17:20,580 --> 00:17:25,045Well, I mean, I loved it when K G O put you on and it, it was my favorite show. 30700:17:25,050 --> 00:17:29,645I, I also listened to Bill Wattenberg only because I found it like strangely humorous. 30800:17:30,035 --> 00:17:31,685Yeah, well, if you knew him, you wouldn't have liked it. 30900:17:32,045 --> 00:17:32,975No, I know. 31000:17:33,095 --> 00:17:33,385Yeah. 31100:17:34,235 --> 00:17:38,241And I, I loved it when they had you and Maureen Langen and I love Maureen. 31200:17:38,241 --> 00:17:39,621Just had lunch with her last weekend. 31300:17:39,621 --> 00:17:41,661She was in Vegas doing the Laugh Factory. 31400:17:41,971 --> 00:17:42,871She's on wba. 31500:17:42,871 --> 00:17:46,031I now in New York, publicly funded, but and she's doing a. 31600:17:46,186 --> 00:17:49,396Really big talent show this summer that I can't really talk about. 31700:17:49,401 --> 00:17:53,236Well, well she posted, she, she teased America's Got Talent, but she hasn't. 31800:17:53,566 --> 00:17:54,796I know all the details. 31900:17:54,796 --> 00:17:55,696I can't share them. 32000:17:55,701 --> 00:17:55,946Okay. 32100:17:56,366 --> 00:17:59,246But just be sure you watch America's Got Talent this summer. 32200:17:59,806 --> 00:18:00,636I, I will. 32300:18:00,696 --> 00:18:01,416Oh, wonderful. 32400:18:01,476 --> 00:18:01,836Great. 32500:18:02,256 --> 00:18:10,806And what about you? Do you have anything coming up that you're doing other than you have this huge, you have your podcast and video show and everything that you do that's Yes. 32600:18:10,806 --> 00:18:14,017Which is, yeah, the podcast is still in the top 200 in Canada, United States. 32700:18:14,286 --> 00:18:14,826I saw that today. 32800:18:14,826 --> 00:18:16,056You're 2 0 4 today. 32900:18:16,086 --> 00:18:16,747I, yeah, I know. 33000:18:17,046 --> 00:18:20,856It's, it's, it's something you think I could turn that into money somehow? Yeah. 33100:18:20,956 --> 00:18:21,596But no. 33200:18:21,596 --> 00:18:24,511So I'm very blessed that I'm still ranking. 33300:18:24,571 --> 00:18:26,671There are 2 million podcasts available. 33400:18:27,126 --> 00:18:30,256And out of 2 million I consistently rank in the top 200. 33500:18:30,256 --> 00:18:32,646That's, people would say, well, that's not very high. 33600:18:32,856 --> 00:18:33,876That's fine with me. 33700:18:33,936 --> 00:18:35,526That that's out of 2 million. 33800:18:35,796 --> 00:18:37,986That's in the top 0.1%. 33900:18:38,046 --> 00:18:41,076That's remarkable because, so that, yeah, I'll take that. 34000:18:41,096 --> 00:18:41,736Heck yeah. 34100:18:41,741 --> 00:18:45,216And the fact that I just do this crazy, half hour where I just talk about whatever. 34200:18:45,511 --> 00:18:47,581it is, I'm very fortunate about that. 34300:18:47,861 --> 00:18:50,021I'm going back and doing recording. 34400:18:50,021 --> 00:18:53,741We're doing a Gospel House remix of a song I really believe in called Stronger Together. 34500:18:53,891 --> 00:18:53,981Mm-hmm. 34600:18:54,171 --> 00:19:07,441May 22nd, I'm going to LA and we're gonna have a choir and Thea's coming back in and my friend the From Snap and Morgan Mallory, who was on America's Got Talent and my friend Daniel Charleston, who's in Pacific Opera Project, and we're gonna have a choir of 10 voices. 34700:19:07,781 --> 00:19:09,521We're gonna record it as a gospel house mix. 34800:19:09,521 --> 00:19:13,031We're gonna release married men disco version before that, then follow up with. 34900:19:13,306 --> 00:19:14,296Stronger together. 35000:19:14,546 --> 00:19:17,966And then follow that with another single, so we'll get the single started doing again. 35100:19:18,356 --> 00:19:24,546I am pitching Weathering the Future which is a show where I go to the 10 places in the United States that are gonna weather the future the best. 35200:19:24,946 --> 00:19:28,871However, again, networks don't work like networks used to. 35300:19:29,171 --> 00:19:33,521It used to be you pitched an idea to a network, they gave you a series order and a budget. 35400:19:33,521 --> 00:19:34,361You went and did it. 35500:19:34,421 --> 00:19:35,021That was that. 35600:19:35,021 --> 00:19:35,081Yeah. 35700:19:35,441 --> 00:19:40,181Nowadays, networks look for production partners where you bring them a completely finished show. 35800:19:40,996 --> 00:19:42,616And then they slap their name on it. 35900:19:42,756 --> 00:19:43,546And then twice original. 36000:19:44,076 --> 00:19:44,346Yeah. 36100:19:44,346 --> 00:19:44,676Right. 36200:19:44,676 --> 00:19:46,836And they pay X amount per episode. 36300:19:46,836 --> 00:19:49,656Or they just pay you, like Netflix just plays by the stream. 36400:19:50,106 --> 00:19:50,196Mm-hmm. 36500:19:50,536 --> 00:19:53,386And so it's a very different world right now. 36600:19:53,391 --> 00:19:54,886Television is shrinking. 36700:19:54,886 --> 00:20:02,626Film is shrinking the money for television and film, even though you hear about these billion dollar deals and Netflix spending a billion dollars on content. 36800:20:02,926 --> 00:20:03,946Yeah, they're buying it. 36900:20:03,976 --> 00:20:04,266Yeah. 37000:20:04,426 --> 00:20:05,566They're not producing it. 37100:20:05,626 --> 00:20:06,406They're buying it. 37200:20:06,961 --> 00:20:16,851What was this? To get content made nowadays you almost have to find a production company that funds it and then brings it to a network and gets their money back that way. 37300:20:17,211 --> 00:20:17,331Yeah. 37400:20:17,331 --> 00:20:18,591It used to be totally different. 37500:20:18,771 --> 00:20:23,151You used to be able to go to the network with or to the studio with a film idea. 37600:20:23,586 --> 00:20:25,386And then they'd say, okay, we like this film. 37700:20:25,386 --> 00:20:27,726We're gonna finance this film nowadays. 37800:20:27,786 --> 00:20:28,266No. 37900:20:28,456 --> 00:20:35,746To make a film, to make a movie, even an independent film, you pretty much have to go secure the funding and then the studio agrees to do the movie. 38000:20:35,926 --> 00:20:38,986They help you with the funding and or pay some of it back. 38100:20:39,316 --> 00:20:43,876And then you collect on the backend if there is a backend and pay your investors back. 38200:20:44,176 --> 00:20:44,506I see. 38300:20:44,506 --> 00:20:46,516So that way there's no downside for them. 38400:20:47,131 --> 00:20:47,521Right. 38500:20:47,521 --> 00:20:54,511They, they, they have totally gotten out of the pre, legacy studios, A B abc, cbs, B S M T V Studios, all of them. 38600:20:54,871 --> 00:21:00,451They'll make deals with like Chandra Rhimes and stuff where, where they will give them production money up front. 38700:21:00,811 --> 00:21:06,631But these are people that have enormous shows already that are, Chandra Rhimes is a freaking industry. 38800:21:06,931 --> 00:21:07,351Mm-hmm. 38900:21:07,401 --> 00:21:10,811Bradley Fk and Ryan Murphy, Yeah. 39000:21:10,811 --> 00:21:14,671They're getting production money up front when they don't need it, and that's just the away with everything. 39100:21:14,671 --> 00:21:21,751Rich people don't pay for shit, and people who have the money to produce things are actually given money by the studios. 39200:21:21,991 --> 00:21:26,281The people who don't have money to produce things are not given the money by the studios. 39300:21:26,706 --> 00:21:29,076So it's, it's got completely upside down. 39400:21:29,286 --> 00:21:34,266I know a lot of industry executives who are getting out of the industry because they just don't like the way that it's going. 39500:21:34,626 --> 00:21:35,046Yeah. 39600:21:35,376 --> 00:21:41,406I went on a tour at Paramount and I was surprised about how little work people there had to do. 39700:21:41,586 --> 00:21:42,726I'm like, yes, are is. 39800:21:42,726 --> 00:21:45,356Are they gonna shoot anything? I mean, nothing was going on. 39900:21:45,816 --> 00:21:49,416Absolutely not saying, well, that's because half of Paramount lot now is rented out. 40000:21:50,281 --> 00:21:51,251They're not all paramount. 40100:21:51,251 --> 00:21:55,681when I, when I filmed at Paramount and I also did a show there, a concert with Grace Jones. 40200:21:55,681 --> 00:22:01,231It was so much fun in the pool area where they film all the water things, where they filmed the Star Trek and the whales and all of that. 40300:22:01,501 --> 00:22:04,351There's a giant pool area there at Paramount where they do a lot of water scenes. 40400:22:04,351 --> 00:22:04,441Yes. 40500:22:04,921 --> 00:22:09,871And it's got an enormous green screen behind it that's like 300 feet wide and a concert. 40600:22:10,081 --> 00:22:11,731I did a concert right in the middle of that pool. 40700:22:11,731 --> 00:22:12,061Oh neat. 40800:22:12,221 --> 00:22:15,431With Grace Jones and it was a wonderful thing called Tribal Track. 40900:22:16,006 --> 00:22:24,436We had a grand and glorious time, but I used to also film a couple TV shows there, ultimate Revenge and Soap Dish and some other, some other shows that I was on. 41000:22:24,736 --> 00:22:29,251And so I'd go to the Paramount lot and it was busy as hell and the commissary was always full. 41100:22:29,251 --> 00:22:31,866And nowadays you go, they're, they're freaking ghost towns. 41200:22:32,016 --> 00:22:32,786It's a ghost town. 41300:22:33,136 --> 00:22:33,466Yeah. 41400:22:33,466 --> 00:22:41,756They're ghost towns because half the sound stages aren't occupied because they charge so much money to, to use them that independent productions aren't using them. 41500:22:41,906 --> 00:22:44,876And major studios, major productions have moved. 41600:22:45,041 --> 00:22:46,631Vancouver, Georgia. 41700:22:46,721 --> 00:22:46,961Yes. 41800:22:46,961 --> 00:22:48,041Various other places. 41900:22:48,041 --> 00:22:51,741So huge productions aren't even in LA anymore. 42000:22:52,381 --> 00:22:53,801And they're, they're all over. 42100:22:53,861 --> 00:22:54,101Yeah. 42200:22:54,106 --> 00:23:00,941I mean, even like 25, 30 years ago, when I first started doing this myself, there was quite a bit that shot in San Francisco I used to go to. 42300:23:01,061 --> 00:23:01,451Oh yeah. 42400:23:01,511 --> 00:23:03,672I used to go to SAG auditions all the time. 42500:23:04,586 --> 00:23:08,246Then there were, then they had the strike, and then since then, absolutely nothing. 42600:23:08,276 --> 00:23:11,396It's all in Canada still in la and Georgia. 42700:23:11,396 --> 00:23:13,526Georgia, Georgia is a big thing cuz it's cheap. 42800:23:13,526 --> 00:23:14,036Oh yeah. 42900:23:14,366 --> 00:23:14,666Yeah. 43000:23:14,876 --> 00:23:17,126And the Walking Dead helps, helps that a lot too. 43100:23:17,126 --> 00:23:17,186Yeah. 43200:23:17,246 --> 00:23:21,206Well, I, I consider people in Georgia the walking dead, so whatever. 43300:23:21,936 --> 00:23:23,546Yeah, no kidding God. 43400:23:24,666 --> 00:23:25,186Yeah, I'm ready. 43500:23:25,191 --> 00:23:27,486I'm ready for the red, I'm ready for the red states to go by. 43600:23:27,516 --> 00:23:28,746Just leave, get out. 43700:23:29,196 --> 00:23:32,046So you were in a show with Grace Jones? Oh, absolutely. 43800:23:32,796 --> 00:23:34,566I've toured with a lot of people. 43900:23:34,571 --> 00:23:36,006Grace Jones, Bronski Beat. 44000:23:36,006 --> 00:23:39,966I've toured with Thea, my friend from Snap, who's celebrating 30 years of rhythm with a dancer. 44100:23:40,236 --> 00:23:40,476Yeah. 44200:23:40,506 --> 00:23:45,961I've, I've opened for just really big dance or regular, artist. 44300:23:45,976 --> 00:23:46,846But yeah, grace was fun. 44400:23:46,846 --> 00:23:48,166We got very high backstage. 44500:23:48,626 --> 00:23:50,996I met, I first met Grace, where is my, oh, here. 44600:23:50,996 --> 00:23:51,716Hold on, hold on. 44700:23:51,746 --> 00:23:51,776Okay. 44800:23:52,776 --> 00:23:52,986Hello. 44900:23:55,626 --> 00:23:59,026Let's see, which camera are we on here? Your main one, I think. 45000:23:59,026 --> 00:23:59,346There we go. 45100:23:59,346 --> 00:24:02,126Yeah, let's see. 45200:24:02,206 --> 00:24:03,556I, oh, over here. 45300:24:03,886 --> 00:24:04,516Oh, that's better. 45400:24:04,586 --> 00:24:06,016Oh, oh. 45500:24:07,666 --> 00:24:09,736I've never seen a picture of you when you were young. 45600:24:09,796 --> 00:24:10,906That's at the Grammys. 45700:24:10,906 --> 00:24:12,196That is a member's only jacket. 45800:24:12,386 --> 00:24:15,116That's at the Grammys in 1982, I believe. 45900:24:15,166 --> 00:24:15,466Oh, neat. 46000:24:15,616 --> 00:24:19,086When I first met Grace we were there together at the after party. 46100:24:19,476 --> 00:24:21,606I walked up and said, I love your ec Miyaki dress. 46200:24:22,026 --> 00:24:24,696And the dress she had worn on stage with made Outta Bamboo. 46300:24:25,036 --> 00:24:27,166And I said, I believe it's in the Museum of Modern Art. 46400:24:27,166 --> 00:24:29,656Right? And she's like, you are the only one who knew. 46500:24:29,656 --> 00:24:30,756And I'm like, no, no. 46600:24:31,306 --> 00:24:34,336I established and the office she had on with the big ponytail. 46700:24:34,896 --> 00:24:35,916Was Miyaki. 46800:24:35,946 --> 00:24:37,326And so we hung out. 46900:24:37,696 --> 00:24:42,226We met then I interviewed her for the r and b report in the mid eighties to early nineties. 47000:24:42,231 --> 00:24:46,686And her limo hadn't shown up at where were we in la We're one of those madons or something. 47100:24:47,166 --> 00:24:54,961And so my friend Ken had driven me, he had a brand new Jeep Wrangler without the top on, and she said, I need to get to the recording session for love. 47200:24:54,961 --> 00:24:55,861On top of love. 47300:24:55,861 --> 00:24:57,391Dolf long's already there. 47400:24:57,391 --> 00:25:02,491Can you drive me? And I said, well, we're, we're in a Jeep with no top on. 47500:25:02,971 --> 00:25:04,891Ah, and she's like, that's fine. 47600:25:05,161 --> 00:25:11,551So she had a big, huge ponytail dress on and everything we get in the Jeep, we're driving down Santa Monica Boulevard, she's in the back. 47700:25:11,851 --> 00:25:16,271She suddenly stands up and holds onto the roll bar because she was enjoying herself. 47800:25:16,641 --> 00:25:17,966And we're on our way to see her. 47900:25:17,966 --> 00:25:20,006Brits a photography icon of mine. 48000:25:20,376 --> 00:25:24,426And suddenly a guy pulls up next to us on Santa Monica Boulevard as his want to happen. 48100:25:24,666 --> 00:25:26,676These two Latino queens look over in guns. 48200:25:27,006 --> 00:25:29,766Look, that gra, that drag queen looks just like Grace Jones. 48300:25:30,161 --> 00:25:35,471And she turns and looks down and she grabs her ponytail and she goes, I am not her drag queen. 48400:25:35,471 --> 00:25:36,701I am Grace Jones. 48500:25:37,751 --> 00:25:40,961And they like freaked out, like, oh my God, it really is Grace Jones. 48600:25:41,521 --> 00:25:48,631So we had that experience together and then I, I, few years later, I opened for her and she remembered You gave me a ride and a Jeep. 48700:25:48,631 --> 00:25:49,411Yes, I did. 48800:25:49,811 --> 00:25:52,531So, we had a grand time at that, the show as well. 48900:25:52,631 --> 00:25:53,981She really sounded like that. 49000:25:54,391 --> 00:25:54,871In real life. 49100:25:54,876 --> 00:25:56,281That's how she, that's how she sounds. 49200:25:56,691 --> 00:25:58,671And now she's doing West Hollywood Pride. 49300:25:58,671 --> 00:26:01,201I believe this year it's either WeHo or la. 49400:26:01,201 --> 00:26:02,101They got a bunch of people. 49500:26:02,101 --> 00:26:03,271Mariah Carey is doing it. 49600:26:03,621 --> 00:26:07,401So yeah, grace is doing that and she's doing a lot of pride festivals this year. 49700:26:07,681 --> 00:26:11,491Mainly cuz I think she's, I don't wanna say bored, but she loves to entertain. 49800:26:11,781 --> 00:26:19,461And and she, and the thing about Grace is, grace is this wonderful merging of modern art and music. 49900:26:19,691 --> 00:26:20,311Mm-hmm. 50000:26:20,311 --> 00:26:22,581everything that she does is also art. 50100:26:22,941 --> 00:26:23,271Yes. 50200:26:23,451 --> 00:26:26,181Her, her clothing, her bloody, her presence. 50300:26:26,186 --> 00:26:26,961Well, well, yeah. 50400:26:26,961 --> 00:26:29,761She was, Painted by Keith Herring to go to a party. 50500:26:30,121 --> 00:26:30,181Yeah. 50600:26:30,231 --> 00:26:33,741And she showed up with Dolf Lure and his twin brother, arm and arm. 50700:26:33,741 --> 00:26:35,811And then they, she walked into the consulate. 50800:26:35,811 --> 00:26:36,801This is for the consulate. 50900:26:37,101 --> 00:26:39,321She walks into the consulate and she peels off her coat. 51000:26:39,321 --> 00:26:42,111And she's naked, except for her body is all painted by Keith Herring. 51100:26:42,671 --> 00:26:44,291So, you know, I think I remember that picture. 51200:26:44,291 --> 00:26:45,371There was a photo of that. 51300:26:45,371 --> 00:26:46,121Absolutely. 51400:26:46,126 --> 00:26:46,541Yeah, yeah, yeah. 51500:26:46,721 --> 00:26:56,501So, yeah, so she merges, modern art with music and I don't think there are many artists nowadays that really pay as much attention to art and artists. 51600:26:57,121 --> 00:26:59,741That aren't musical art and artist as she does. 51700:26:59,741 --> 00:27:01,781Yeah, Basquiat did things for her. 51800:27:01,991 --> 00:27:11,931I mean, she's had so many famous painters and famous sculptors do things for her, make dresses for her, make outfits for her famous, Cottiers. 51900:27:12,521 --> 00:27:14,531Who just want to design one-offs for her. 52000:27:14,531 --> 00:27:18,521So I really think that, there's, there's just not another entity like her. 52100:27:18,701 --> 00:27:31,062Well, she's so striking and so charismatic, and every, every time you see something, a picture of her or a performance, you just, it, it, you have this well up of like, feeling like sometimes it's uncomfortable, I have to say. 52200:27:31,796 --> 00:27:32,486Sometimes you're tired. 52300:27:32,486 --> 00:27:35,306I remember waiting to see her at Lion Country Safari in Southern California. 52400:27:35,306 --> 00:27:43,436She was supposed to come on at midnight at 3:00 AM a forklift comes on with a leopard inside a cage, and on top of the cage was her. 52500:27:43,796 --> 00:27:47,876So, I'm sorry, the leopard was on top of the cage and she was in the cage. 52600:27:47,876 --> 00:27:48,717I think I remember seeing that. 52700:27:49,166 --> 00:27:50,066Like a leopard. 52800:27:50,066 --> 00:27:50,876Oh, we were there. 52900:27:51,156 --> 00:27:56,941And so this forklift drops her and she's doing Demolition man, Yama walking nightmare. 53000:27:58,861 --> 00:27:59,531And here's this. 53100:27:59,711 --> 00:28:02,016there's this leopard and we're just like, holy Christ. 53200:28:02,046 --> 00:28:02,106Yeah. 53300:28:02,416 --> 00:28:05,236But like Madonna, she's never really started a show on time. 53400:28:05,806 --> 00:28:06,256Oh, yeah. 53500:28:06,256 --> 00:28:09,946Well, which I find horribly disrespectful, by the way, the same with Madonna. 53600:28:09,951 --> 00:28:12,796When Madonna came to Vegas three years ago, the show was at eight. 53700:28:12,801 --> 00:28:14,416She saed on stage at 10 30. 53800:28:14,416 --> 00:28:15,376Fuck you Madonna. 53900:28:15,686 --> 00:28:17,446I would've left so eighties also would've left. 54000:28:18,046 --> 00:28:18,966I would've left. 54100:28:19,366 --> 00:28:20,806And they took all their cell phones. 54200:28:20,806 --> 00:28:23,446So these people have been sitting there for two and a half hours without their No. 54300:28:23,596 --> 00:28:28,246That is so disrespectful of an artist to disrespect the audience's time. 54400:28:28,831 --> 00:28:29,441Oh, I agree. 54500:28:29,441 --> 00:28:33,391it's, it's just so dis if I say the show starts at date, it starts at date. 54600:28:33,391 --> 00:28:34,861If you ain't in your seat, too bad, baby. 54700:28:34,861 --> 00:28:39,211It's, it's ha because I come from a world where you can't begin at four 10 or four 15. 54800:28:39,451 --> 00:28:45,061You ha you're, the mic goes live at 4 0 5 and you're either there behind it or you're not. 54900:28:45,066 --> 00:28:45,281Yeah. 55000:28:45,571 --> 00:28:46,561There's a radio show. 55100:28:46,561 --> 00:28:47,102You better be there. 55200:28:47,111 --> 00:28:47,401Yeah. 55300:28:47,731 --> 00:28:47,941Yeah. 55400:28:47,941 --> 00:28:49,051Cause God knows Andrew. 55500:28:49,051 --> 00:28:49,471And are you. 55600:28:49,846 --> 00:28:56,666God Novera and I have sped down Wilshire Boulevard breaking more than a few laws more than a few times trying to get there from Long Beach on time. 55700:28:56,696 --> 00:28:58,526David's like, I'm not post running the beginning of the show. 55800:28:58,526 --> 00:28:59,696You better get your ass here. 55900:28:59,876 --> 00:29:03,2964 0 5, our interim music is playing and we're running up from the parking lot. 56000:29:03,806 --> 00:29:04,496That's so cool. 56100:29:04,526 --> 00:29:13,411I just, just telling my wife the other day, I said, in the seventies when we used to go to concerts, cause I just went and saw Willie Nelson the other night and he actually started a little late, which surprised me, but, well, that's okay. 56200:29:13,416 --> 00:29:14,071He's a hundred. 56300:29:14,251 --> 00:29:16,531He's, yeah, I mean, I, that guy blows my mind. 56400:29:16,591 --> 00:29:18,901I just wanna say right now, first of all, it was a great show. 56500:29:18,901 --> 00:29:22,451He only played for an hour, but what do you expect when you're 89 years old? Yeah, he's 89. 56600:29:22,571 --> 00:29:23,581He's eight today. 56700:29:23,881 --> 00:29:24,541Today's 90. 56800:29:24,541 --> 00:29:24,811Yeah. 56900:29:24,901 --> 00:29:25,351Happy birthday. 57000:29:25,351 --> 00:29:26,671And he's on tour until October. 57100:29:26,671 --> 00:29:27,181Right. 57200:29:27,541 --> 00:29:30,061What I said, if I'm unsure when I'm 90, you'll wait for me. 57300:29:30,061 --> 00:29:30,961Love that guy. 57400:29:30,961 --> 00:29:43,261But in the seventies, and you, you probably remember this, I mean, you, if you went to go see a rock concert, they were at least two hours late because they were like, had to get over their, their, their drug or whatever they were doing backstage, Well, I did not go to rock concerts. 57500:29:43,261 --> 00:29:45,331I was a young gay boy, so, oh, that's right. 57600:29:45,336 --> 00:29:54,531I, I saw artists who actually came out and sang and r and b hugely into r and b in the seventies and well even now in fact, I'm going to see Stephanie Mills Saturday night. 57700:29:54,721 --> 00:29:55,081But. 57800:29:55,451 --> 00:29:58,876so r and b artists tend to be on time yeah. 57900:29:58,876 --> 00:30:01,036Unless you're Bobby Brown and you're Thornton Coke or something. 58000:30:01,336 --> 00:30:01,986That's true. 58100:30:01,986 --> 00:30:04,166But, the, the r b artists tend to be on time. 58200:30:04,396 --> 00:30:13,067So, in the seventies and eighties I was seeing acts like Confunction and Parliament and Gladys Knight and, and Aretha and just so I can't even count. 58300:30:13,276 --> 00:30:16,006I wish I had gone to those so many concerts. 58400:30:16,216 --> 00:30:23,286The first concert I ever went to was what's her name? Oh oh, I can't think of any, I actually don't remember the first concert I went to. 58500:30:23,291 --> 00:30:25,266I've been to so many in my life. 58600:30:25,266 --> 00:30:27,136Because when you work for Billboard or Yeah. 58700:30:27,336 --> 00:30:32,156John Greenport or The Advocate and you're doing interviews, all the time and you're always at the show. 58800:30:32,646 --> 00:30:32,816Yeah. 58900:30:32,816 --> 00:30:34,717I started doing that in junior in high school. 59000:30:35,076 --> 00:30:41,796I started working at the high school press, so I started interviewing music artists when I was 16, so 1978. 59100:30:42,381 --> 00:30:44,961Yeah, you, I remember my first big play. 59200:30:45,151 --> 00:30:47,141My first big play was at the Pans. 59300:30:47,701 --> 00:30:51,421I got on their media list in 1978, and I'm still on it. 59400:30:51,811 --> 00:30:51,931Yeah. 59500:30:51,971 --> 00:30:56,151And it was Earth Kit in Timbuktu and I had no idea. 59600:30:56,916 --> 00:30:59,286Why When Eartha came out, I was 16. 59700:30:59,316 --> 00:31:01,566Emily Johnson drove cuz she had her driver's permit. 59800:31:01,926 --> 00:31:21,006I had no idea that when Eartha came out and she's dropped by these beautiful, gorgeous men and she goes to the edge of the stage and she kicks her leg out, she puts her hands on her hips and she says, I am Salim Lak wave wis to the welcome to I had no idea why she got a 10 minute standing ovation. 59900:31:21,006 --> 00:31:23,106I'm like, okay, that was a good line, but why are. 60000:31:23,511 --> 00:31:43,161And it was because that was her first American performance after being ostracized by Lady Bird Johnson and being blacklisted for almost two decades because she had the nerve to tell Lady Bird Johnson at the White House that she didn't think it was right, that they were sending black people to fight their war when black people were not equal economically or socially. 60100:31:43,551 --> 00:31:46,821Ah, and allegedly she made Lady Bird Johnson cry. 60200:31:47,086 --> 00:31:47,746After that. 60300:31:47,746 --> 00:31:52,696The f b I blacklisted her, everybody, she could not get a job anywhere except out of the country. 60400:31:52,696 --> 00:31:52,756Wow. 60500:31:52,936 --> 00:31:55,756That's why she was only on Batman for two episodes as Catwoman. 60600:31:55,996 --> 00:32:00,076She got blacklisted by the, by Lyndon Baines Johnson and Lady Bird Johnson. 60700:32:00,226 --> 00:32:00,316Oh. 60800:32:00,316 --> 00:32:03,856She was the best Catwoman she was, but only two episodes. 60900:32:03,861 --> 00:32:04,997I, I, I was a huge fan. 61000:32:05,236 --> 00:32:07,286I've seen all those episodes and I remember her episode. 61100:32:07,366 --> 00:32:09,916I was with her the kit the night she found out how old she was. 61200:32:09,921 --> 00:32:10,846We were in Orange County. 61300:32:10,846 --> 00:32:12,526She was doing the Segas from center. 61400:32:12,706 --> 00:32:16,036I had interviewed, I, I've interviewed Arthur probably six or seven times. 61500:32:16,126 --> 00:32:16,576She's just a. 61600:32:16,676 --> 00:32:17,336Fun interview. 61700:32:17,766 --> 00:32:24,476And she had told me during one of the interviews that she was born, as a sharecropper's daughter and that they didn't have a birth certificate. 61800:32:24,536 --> 00:32:24,566Oh. 61900:32:24,926 --> 00:32:28,196And so she never knew the year or date that she was born. 62000:32:28,646 --> 00:32:29,876Well, that was well known. 62100:32:29,876 --> 00:32:39,926And so some rabid fans of hers back in the early late nineties or early two thousands actually dug up documentation about her and found her birthday. 62200:32:40,026 --> 00:32:40,246Wow. 62300:32:40,496 --> 00:32:42,326And they came to the circus from center. 62400:32:42,861 --> 00:32:47,421And presented her with the documents to show her how old she really was. 62500:32:47,881 --> 00:32:51,361And I was with her when she learned that she was in her seventies. 62600:32:51,721 --> 00:32:51,871Wow. 62700:32:51,871 --> 00:32:53,011That must have been moving. 62800:32:53,281 --> 00:32:53,491Wow. 62900:32:53,491 --> 00:32:54,791It was something actually, yeah. 63000:32:54,961 --> 00:32:55,261Yeah. 63100:32:55,351 --> 00:32:55,891Wow. 63200:32:55,896 --> 00:32:56,151Incredible. 63300:32:56,491 --> 00:32:57,931I'm not sure that I want to know. 63400:32:59,131 --> 00:32:59,751Yeah, exactly. 63500:33:00,271 --> 00:33:00,871Oh, she was so funny. 63600:33:01,011 --> 00:33:02,161She was so funny. 63700:33:02,431 --> 00:33:05,071Tell me what you think of, tell me what you think of Barbara Streisand. 63800:33:05,491 --> 00:33:07,201She's done very well with that one note. 63900:33:09,676 --> 00:33:12,106What about Madonna? She's an interesting business woman. 64000:33:12,166 --> 00:33:13,156Well, no, she's a singer. 64100:33:13,336 --> 00:33:15,286Like I said, she's an interesting business woman. 64200:33:16,806 --> 00:33:19,166I, I would we would have so much fun all the time. 64300:33:19,646 --> 00:33:22,256I just remember the first concert I went to Earth, wind and Fire. 64400:33:22,261 --> 00:33:22,686That's what it was. 64500:33:23,006 --> 00:33:24,807Ah, do you remember? Yeah, they were great. 64600:33:25,226 --> 00:33:26,516I saw 'em in recently. 64700:33:26,596 --> 00:33:29,876They, they were, they were lip syncing to a recording, but That's okay. 64800:33:29,876 --> 00:33:30,896They're like 90 years old. 64900:33:30,896 --> 00:33:33,236Well, Philip is still alive, but Maurice White isn't. 65000:33:33,396 --> 00:33:33,686Yeah. 65100:33:33,926 --> 00:33:35,966And I'm not sure Philip can still do that. 65200:33:39,506 --> 00:33:40,306Oh, that's nice. 65300:33:40,306 --> 00:33:40,956Not sure. 65400:33:41,086 --> 00:33:41,376Yeah. 65500:33:41,381 --> 00:33:41,456Yeah. 65600:33:41,726 --> 00:33:41,906Oh, yes. 65700:33:41,906 --> 00:33:48,806Well, it sounded like they were doing it, but then all of a sudden I heard a female voice and I realized, oh, there's a, there's a backing track going on here. 65800:33:48,806 --> 00:33:49,196So, I don't know. 65900:33:49,196 --> 00:33:51,266Well, the emotions aren't around anymore either. 66000:33:51,271 --> 00:33:53,096And then Earthman and Fire and the Emotions. 66100:33:53,096 --> 00:33:55,721Boogie Wonderland is perhaps the best song, ever. 66200:33:55,801 --> 00:33:55,961Yeah. 66300:33:55,976 --> 00:33:58,296They sing that, they sing that romance. 66400:33:58,886 --> 00:34:04,316When I start to dance in, oh yes. 66500:34:04,586 --> 00:34:06,086Oh, you're sounding good today. 66600:34:07,646 --> 00:34:10,526I grew up with, I grew up with Bill Bailey and the emotions. 66700:34:10,526 --> 00:34:16,071See, I saw the emotions back when when they had, when, when I see you again. 66800:34:16,281 --> 00:34:16,851Oh, I love this song. 66900:34:16,911 --> 00:34:17,241Oh, yes. 67000:34:17,241 --> 00:34:18,501I and Fri of Pain. 67100:34:18,501 --> 00:34:21,681Now that you gone, I saw her sing Band of Gold. 67200:34:22,096 --> 00:34:22,636Oh yeah. 67300:34:22,726 --> 00:34:23,296Oh yeah. 67400:34:23,296 --> 00:34:24,806That's who I grew up going to see. 67500:34:24,906 --> 00:34:33,016Hey, I have to tell you the other day I mean I guess it was a couple months ago, maybe you played a clip from you and Andrew doing that thing at Burger King or McDonald's. 67600:34:33,021 --> 00:34:33,616Or McDonald's. 67700:34:33,616 --> 00:34:34,366My McDonald's, yeah. 67800:34:34,366 --> 00:34:36,557Oh my god, I was laughing so hard. 67900:34:36,946 --> 00:34:38,276Oh, it's very, and I was cracking. 68000:34:38,276 --> 00:34:45,646It's still very talked about segment where I, I did that because my late roommate, Gary Alexander, used to work at that McDonald's. 68100:34:46,036 --> 00:34:46,156Yeah. 68200:34:46,156 --> 00:34:47,596And Gary died of aids. 68300:34:48,016 --> 00:34:59,176And I, we were looking for ideas and I, I told my program director, David Hall, I said, well, my late roommate Gary used to always want to tell the people at the drive-through what he really thought of them. 68400:34:59,596 --> 00:34:59,656Yeah. 68500:34:59,946 --> 00:35:01,781but he couldn't, of course, cuz he wanted to keep his job. 68600:35:02,101 --> 00:35:05,131And I knew the owner of the McDonald's, because Gary had worked there for a decade. 68700:35:06,041 --> 00:35:07,631John Fos Knight, who happened to be gay. 68800:35:07,631 --> 00:35:07,632Mm-hmm. 68900:35:07,741 --> 00:35:08,611He's dead now too. 69000:35:08,901 --> 00:35:10,851And so I talked to John. 69100:35:10,856 --> 00:35:13,731I said, look, you can't clear this with corporate because they're gonna say no. 69200:35:14,061 --> 00:35:16,131Right? But he said, no, come on and do it. 69300:35:16,551 --> 00:35:19,461So Andrew and I went down with our staff and we micd the. 69400:35:20,136 --> 00:35:21,696Joe Tbe, not Joe tbe. 69500:35:21,696 --> 00:35:23,826It was Tony Dekel who just passed away here in Vegas. 69600:35:24,306 --> 00:35:25,116Great engineer. 69700:35:25,116 --> 00:35:26,166Fabulous engineer. 69800:35:26,376 --> 00:35:26,616Oh, yes. 69900:35:26,616 --> 00:35:32,046Remember you And Tony Dekel could make, he could take a coat hanger into a closet and put you on air. 70000:35:32,756 --> 00:35:37,696so he micd and we sat on the menu that we're live on air, but it was just a menu item. 70100:35:37,696 --> 00:35:39,676It did you, we had to read it. 70200:35:40,116 --> 00:35:45,066And of course I worked the drive through and we weren't supposed to do it for 45 minutes, and we ended up doing it for three hours. 70300:35:45,616 --> 00:35:59,221And it, it was one of the most fun that I've had, but I, because I did it as an homage to my late friend Gary, who passed away from h I v aids, and, it was sort of like, I'm gonna do what he always wanted to do for him. 70400:35:59,651 --> 00:36:05,581The day after John Foz and I got called to Taco Bell Corporate of course he owned five I'm sorry, to McDonald's. 70500:36:05,821 --> 00:36:12,091Of course, he owned five McDonald's, including the ones inside Disneyland, and he got called up to McDonald's corporate. 70600:36:12,476 --> 00:36:14,816And they said we would love to chastise you. 70700:36:14,816 --> 00:36:18,986We would love to, to, take some sort of repercussion. 70800:36:19,286 --> 00:36:25,716The only problem is the phones haven't stopped ringing all day with everyone saying how fabulous it was and how much they enjoyed it. 70900:36:26,166 --> 00:36:27,766So McDonald's corporate la. 71000:36:28,641 --> 00:36:35,871Was going to reprimand him for letting me do it, but they had such an overwhelming response to it that they had to just leave him alone. 71100:36:36,271 --> 00:36:44,731So and I, we never found out until a year or two later that McDonald's had been called all day long at their corporate office about our gig. 71200:36:45,301 --> 00:36:52,881Also, we found out what's his name? Why am I forgetting his name? Late night host David Letterman, worked at a fast food restaurant on his show. 71300:36:53,356 --> 00:37:01,906We found out that his producer heard me at the McDonald's and took that idea to Letterman and then Letterman did it. 71400:37:02,216 --> 00:37:06,206Letterman did that at working a drive-through because of my show. 71500:37:06,326 --> 00:37:06,756Oh, wow. 71600:37:07,751 --> 00:37:13,001That happens a lot in radio where a lot of things are innovated and people steal it and, and they don't know. 71700:37:13,001 --> 00:37:14,981Particularly in LA radio where I have. 71800:37:14,981 --> 00:37:15,491Yeah, yeah. 71900:37:15,491 --> 00:37:17,021I just met someone here in Vegas the other day. 72000:37:17,021 --> 00:37:20,021I was out having lunch at a vegan restaurant here, and they recognized my voice. 72100:37:20,021 --> 00:37:22,121They're like, oh my God, you came on right before Phil Hendry. 72200:37:22,331 --> 00:37:23,291I work in the industry. 72300:37:23,291 --> 00:37:24,991I'm a set dresser, and blah. 72400:37:24,991 --> 00:37:25,381Mm-hmm. 72500:37:25,451 --> 00:37:28,871I mean, there's a, an animated show called Queer Duck, which is me. 72600:37:29,181 --> 00:37:34,311Mike Reese, one of the creators of the Simpsons, used to listen to our show and he wanted. 72700:37:34,511 --> 00:37:36,521To do this show about me and Andy. 72800:37:36,821 --> 00:37:44,771So he created this cartoon called Queer Duck at the time for Icebox, which was an early website that did web animations in Java script. 72900:37:45,291 --> 00:37:47,271And so he created the show. 73000:37:47,451 --> 00:37:48,711He wanted me to be the voice. 73100:37:48,711 --> 00:37:53,976I went and auditioned for it cuz he goes, look, I have to have you audition cuz it's the studio and not me. 73200:37:54,381 --> 00:38:02,061And the only reason I didn't get it, and Jim j Bullock did, is because I could only do one voice and Jim j Bullock could do five. 73300:38:02,461 --> 00:38:14,791So he got the part of Queer Duck, even though it's me and that show went on to be on Showtime and Ollie Gator and all the other, the characters in the show was based on what Mike Reese would hear us talking about our friends. 73400:38:15,691 --> 00:38:16,261Oh, wow. 73500:38:16,266 --> 00:38:16,691Amazing. 73600:38:16,841 --> 00:38:17,331Amazing. 73700:38:17,551 --> 00:38:18,991Never got a dime for it, but Oh well. 73800:38:19,801 --> 00:38:21,151So, so common. 73900:38:21,661 --> 00:38:29,581So in case people don't realize, I mean you, you were, you were, you were working at the drive-through and Andrew was, you had an earpiece or something and he was telling you Yeah. 74000:38:29,911 --> 00:38:32,731He was like suggesting what you could say to the people ordering the shoes. 74100:38:32,731 --> 00:38:32,821Yeah. 74200:38:32,826 --> 00:38:34,441They always had him, they always had him do that. 74300:38:34,446 --> 00:38:40,591Like when I was holding and you were razing these people like, oh yeah, like when the lady ordered the fried fish and the french fries with a diet Coke. 74400:38:40,591 --> 00:38:40,981I'm a bitch. 74500:38:40,981 --> 00:38:42,211you want the milkshake. 74600:38:42,211 --> 00:38:43,382Just have it for the love of God. 74700:38:43,387 --> 00:38:43,901That's great. 74800:38:44,101 --> 00:38:46,326it's, So you, I mean, Yeah. 74900:38:46,326 --> 00:38:48,426I mean, because that people are absurd. 75000:38:48,966 --> 00:38:58,686Or when the Hispanic gentlemen cat could never get away with it today, but no, these Hispanic gentlemen came through and they had this huge Mexican accent, and I said, honey, you think this is El Poeo Loco that's up the street. 75100:38:59,136 --> 00:39:00,396It's like, this is McDonald's. 75200:39:00,396 --> 00:39:01,476We serve burgers. 75300:39:01,481 --> 00:39:02,766We don't serve the flame, bro. 75400:39:02,771 --> 00:39:05,046Chicken no, no, I want a burger. 75500:39:05,046 --> 00:39:09,246And I, well, then you don't want an ambient gea, then you want a Big Mac, say Big Mac. 75600:39:09,636 --> 00:39:09,926So yeah. 75700:39:10,306 --> 00:39:11,196So we did that. 75800:39:11,201 --> 00:39:13,776When I went out and was homeless, I, I saw one day. 75900:39:14,016 --> 00:39:18,186There was a woman that decided she was gonna see how much money she could get with a particular sign. 76000:39:18,751 --> 00:39:23,251And I thought, well, I wonder how much each sign makes, like if honesty counts on the sign. 76100:39:23,761 --> 00:39:29,981And we had heard that the homeless people switched their signs a amongst each other and share dogs and children and stuff to try to get more money. 76200:39:30,401 --> 00:39:32,321So I said, well, I wanna go out with three signs. 76300:39:32,321 --> 00:39:37,091We'll work for food, we'll work for booze, or, or Please gimme money for food. 76400:39:37,091 --> 00:39:38,141Please gimme money for booze. 76500:39:38,306 --> 00:39:43,016Or please gimme money for Pod and I wanna see which sign gets the most. 76600:39:43,286 --> 00:39:45,056So they, we had a Hollywood makeup artist. 76700:39:45,056 --> 00:39:51,836I was doing a show called Ultimate Revenge with Ryan Seacrest and Mark Summers, and we had the makeup artist from that show come over and do my makeup. 76800:39:52,166 --> 00:39:57,056And it was so good that the security guard that was supposed to go out to protect me actually threw me out of the K F I building. 76900:39:57,426 --> 00:39:59,106Because he thought I was a real homeless person. 77000:39:59,506 --> 00:39:59,846Oh, wow. 77100:39:59,851 --> 00:40:06,331And oh yeah, so, so I go out on the corner of the metro station at Wilshire and we're crossing the Wilshire Theater. 77200:40:06,781 --> 00:40:09,921And the, the pot made the most money, the pot sign. 77300:40:10,311 --> 00:40:13,521But a, I found out how aggressive homeless people are about their territory. 77400:40:13,521 --> 00:40:14,152That's the first thing. 77500:40:14,701 --> 00:40:18,631Number two, I found out that people do not look at homeless people. 77600:40:18,631 --> 00:40:22,321I stood at the top of a great escalator coming from the down underneath trains. 77700:40:22,791 --> 00:40:27,681Saying hello to people as they streamed out on both sides of me, and nobody looked at me. 77800:40:27,981 --> 00:40:29,241Nobody spoke to me. 77900:40:29,421 --> 00:40:33,141No one looked at me, and it showed me how we all overlook these people. 78000:40:33,146 --> 00:40:33,921We don't look at them. 78100:40:33,921 --> 00:40:40,011We, I say hello to every person I meet, including the homeless and, and many homeless and Desert Breeze Park will attest to that. 78200:40:40,011 --> 00:40:40,911I know all their names. 78300:40:40,916 --> 00:40:41,422I ask their names. 78400:40:42,101 --> 00:40:45,771They're people, they're humans and they deserve to be addressed. 78500:40:46,401 --> 00:40:49,431And I don't care that you don't like their living situation or that they stink. 78600:40:49,436 --> 00:40:50,261I don't care. 78700:40:50,951 --> 00:40:51,631they're human. 78800:40:51,971 --> 00:40:52,961I address animals though. 78900:40:52,961 --> 00:40:55,331I talk to Grackles, I talk to anybody, dogs, whatever. 79000:40:55,336 --> 00:41:01,091If it's a living thing, it deserves to be addressed, but I learned that, that they, they don't address you. 79100:41:01,626 --> 00:41:04,326and so then Andrew was in my ear. 79200:41:04,326 --> 00:41:09,916We again, I was supposed to do it for an hour, ended up doing it for three, and Andrew's in my ear saying, well sing, sing a song. 79300:41:09,941 --> 00:41:11,166And he would say, sing Billy Jean. 79400:41:11,166 --> 00:41:18,706And plus, suddenly I'm out there singing Billy Jean or whatever, and no one ever thought it was weird that I was talking to myself, even though I was talking on the radio because I was homeless. 79500:41:18,711 --> 00:41:20,686And so they just thought I was fucking crazy, so, mm-hmm. 79600:41:21,256 --> 00:41:25,136so I would be talking to him and the listeners, the listeners were calling in and suggesting I do things. 79700:41:25,376 --> 00:41:27,386Then Andrew said, say, praise Jesus a lot. 79800:41:27,391 --> 00:41:28,256See how much money you make. 79900:41:28,286 --> 00:41:28,766Oh my God. 80000:41:28,766 --> 00:41:29,936The money started rolling in. 80100:41:29,936 --> 00:41:30,746I was like, Wow. 80200:41:30,746 --> 00:41:31,316Praise Jesus. 80300:41:31,316 --> 00:41:31,826Hallelujah. 80400:41:31,826 --> 00:41:32,846Thank Jesus. 80500:41:33,126 --> 00:41:34,776And oh yeah, money just started rolling. 80600:41:34,781 --> 00:41:35,216Incredible. 80700:41:35,466 --> 00:41:39,306I subsequently, when I was done, I had collected over $200 in three hours. 80800:41:39,696 --> 00:41:40,836I thought, well, this isn't a bad gig. 80900:41:41,136 --> 00:41:41,646Ah, yeah. 81000:41:41,826 --> 00:41:47,986But I subsequently gave it to a homeless veteran whose area I had taken over with my wheelchair and everything. 81100:41:48,046 --> 00:41:49,686Cuz I brought a wheelchair and the whole thing. 81200:41:49,966 --> 00:41:52,276And I gave it to this homeless veteran that was there. 81300:41:52,776 --> 00:41:54,066I said, here, here have this money. 81400:41:54,336 --> 00:41:56,226He couldn't understand why I was giving it to him. 81500:41:56,226 --> 00:41:57,666And then finally I pulled off the wig instead. 81600:41:57,666 --> 00:41:59,606I said, look, I was doing a bit, oh. 81700:41:59,606 --> 00:42:00,806I thought you were one of us. 81800:42:00,806 --> 00:42:05,726I go, I was, I was homeless for over a year, so trust me, I, I was one of you, but just not today. 81900:42:05,756 --> 00:42:06,326Not wood. 82000:42:06,326 --> 00:42:07,766I'm lucky enough now to have a home. 82100:42:08,066 --> 00:42:08,246Yeah. 82200:42:08,306 --> 00:42:10,131But, so yeah, it was great fun. 82300:42:10,131 --> 00:42:17,841And every time they would send me out and Andrew would stay behind and talk to me in my ear and tell me what to do or what to, things to say to people. 82400:42:18,566 --> 00:42:19,946No, I, I haven't heard any of those. 82500:42:19,946 --> 00:42:21,386I would love to hear the homeless ones. 82600:42:21,446 --> 00:42:24,116Oh, they're, they're, they're hyster, they're, they're fun. 82700:42:24,116 --> 00:42:25,436The sci tell you the tapes. 82800:42:25,616 --> 00:42:26,156Oh yeah. 82900:42:26,156 --> 00:42:31,346The Scientology one is hysterical because I just got bored one day and I said, I wanna go for a walk down Hollywood Boulevard. 83000:42:31,746 --> 00:42:33,936And so Tony Dinkle said, well, let's get in the remote van. 83100:42:33,936 --> 00:42:41,346So we, we went over and I just was talking on the radio while Andrew was at the studio, and the Scientologists were given their quiz out in front of Scientology. 83200:42:41,736 --> 00:42:43,356And I thought, oh, I'll take this live on the radio. 83300:42:43,771 --> 00:42:44,551And they wouldn't let me. 83400:42:45,001 --> 00:42:47,431And I said, well, why won't you let, you're all here on the sidewalk. 83500:42:47,431 --> 00:42:48,541You're giving everybody the quiz. 83600:42:48,541 --> 00:42:53,131Why not give me the quiz? Suddenly five black, five men in black suits are surrounding me. 83700:42:53,251 --> 00:42:53,541Yeah. 83800:42:53,671 --> 00:42:54,691On the public sidewalk. 83900:42:54,841 --> 00:42:55,061Wow. 84000:42:55,061 --> 00:42:59,341And, and said, and I'm like, what's going on here? And oh, well, we're gonna have the head of the church come down. 84100:42:59,341 --> 00:43:02,301And I thought, I don't need the head of no goddamn to you went, first of all, getting the church, y'all crazy. 84200:43:03,251 --> 00:43:08,331But so they called the police, and the police roll up listening to me on the radio. 84300:43:08,851 --> 00:43:10,801Ah, and they get outta the car and they go, cor. 84400:43:10,801 --> 00:43:12,361And the first one, the cop says, it's Corll. 84500:43:12,361 --> 00:43:15,841What are you doing? And I said, I just wanted to take this test. 84600:43:15,841 --> 00:43:20,911They're out here on the public sidewalk giving it to the public, but they won't give it to me. 84700:43:21,301 --> 00:43:25,801And so the, these men are surrounding me, and the cops are, why are you surrounding him? He's on a public sidewalk. 84800:43:25,801 --> 00:43:27,181Plus he has an lap D press credential. 84900:43:27,481 --> 00:43:29,341So he's allowed to be wherever he wants to be. 85000:43:29,341 --> 00:43:30,451So clear away from him. 85100:43:30,841 --> 00:43:33,661So the, the, and all of this is going out live on K F I. 85200:43:33,846 --> 00:43:34,296All of it. 85300:43:34,566 --> 00:43:39,546In fact, you can Google Corll Scientology and the audio is still out there. 85400:43:39,666 --> 00:43:39,846Oh, good. 85500:43:39,846 --> 00:43:41,316From the anti Scientologist. 85600:43:41,856 --> 00:43:41,976Okay. 85700:43:41,976 --> 00:43:48,947Because it all went out on the radio about how crazy they treated me and then how the cops came and how it just all went crazy after that. 85800:43:49,731 --> 00:43:53,751And they never did let me take the test, and I still believe they're all insane. 85900:43:53,811 --> 00:43:55,761So I guess it's a fair sort of trade. 86000:43:55,766 --> 00:43:55,971Yeah. 86100:43:55,971 --> 00:43:56,891Well, it's a cult. 86200:43:57,161 --> 00:43:58,331It's cult cult. 86300:43:58,331 --> 00:43:58,891They're all cult. 86400:43:58,891 --> 00:44:01,581It's a Catholic church is a cult largest child raping in the world. 86500:44:01,931 --> 00:44:02,431I agree. 86600:44:02,431 --> 00:44:05,091I, I hate that Joe Biden, professor Catholicism. 86700:44:05,096 --> 00:44:06,861It's like, so you're a member of a child rape ring. 86800:44:06,861 --> 00:44:07,252Good for you. 86900:44:07,671 --> 00:44:12,711I grew up as a Catholic and, and left promptly when I, they didn't screw me. 87000:44:12,711 --> 00:44:15,186I'm like, what? I mean, that's the ultimate rejection. 87100:44:15,246 --> 00:44:15,426Yeah. 87200:44:15,426 --> 00:44:18,936You're screwing every, you go, my God, for years I went to a therapist. 87300:44:18,936 --> 00:44:21,606He's like, why do you have no self-esteem? I said, the priest never touched me. 87400:44:22,196 --> 00:44:23,306And he is like, that's a problem. 87500:44:23,311 --> 00:44:28,376I go, whether fucking everybody else, It's like I gave him the wine, I gave him the communion, wafers. 87600:44:28,376 --> 00:44:28,766Nothing. 87700:44:28,771 --> 00:44:29,786Never laid a hand on me. 87800:44:29,876 --> 00:44:38,126Okay, so now I have to ask you, are you gonna come up and do some standup up here again? I would love you to, I, it's it after Covid, everything got crazy. 87900:44:38,126 --> 00:44:38,186Yeah. 88000:44:38,186 --> 00:44:39,536And bookings got crazy. 88100:44:39,836 --> 00:44:39,896Yeah. 88200:44:39,896 --> 00:44:42,956And now if you wanna do a venue, they want you to put a guarantee up front. 88300:44:43,496 --> 00:44:48,296It's like, so you gotta put down two grand or four grand if you want to go do a show and hope you make it back. 88400:44:48,386 --> 00:44:48,896That's crazy. 88500:44:49,256 --> 00:44:52,796so, and people like Cobbs Comedy Club and stuff, they're just not paying what they used to. 88600:44:52,801 --> 00:45:07,871There's no travel expenses, there's no, so it's, it's Bruce Lynch and I were just talking about this, it's just, it's very hard nowadays to get back out on the road unless you're backed by a live nation or someone who's gonna pick up the tab for travel and for, meals and. 88700:45:08,221 --> 00:45:11,801Hotels and, things like that because it can get expensive. 88800:45:11,801 --> 00:45:17,391And unless you're gonna charge a hundred bucks a ticket, if you're at a 200 seat venue, you're charging 40 bucks. 88900:45:17,731 --> 00:45:20,001That's, what, $8,000. 89000:45:20,291 --> 00:45:28,171And if you're spending two or three or four on expenses, so but yes, I want to, I am looking into some of the venues. 89100:45:28,176 --> 00:45:31,171I used to do the RAs room, which is now called Feinstein's. 89200:45:31,441 --> 00:45:31,531Yeah. 89300:45:31,561 --> 00:45:32,611Something in San Jose. 89400:45:32,611 --> 00:45:34,471I'd like to do the San Jose Civic Auditorium. 89500:45:34,476 --> 00:45:36,061They have smaller venues there. 89600:45:36,066 --> 00:45:36,211Yeah. 89700:45:36,451 --> 00:45:39,541Instead of a 4,000 seat venue, they have other venues there. 89800:45:39,561 --> 00:45:39,851Yeah. 89900:45:39,971 --> 00:45:41,961But yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm certainly looking into it. 90000:45:41,961 --> 00:45:43,481Pride season is happening. 90100:45:44,021 --> 00:45:48,521We're gonna talk to a couple Pride, San Jose Pride and others, and see if maybe we can get involved in those. 90200:45:49,361 --> 00:45:52,361So, yeah, I'm, I'm looking to, me and Ember are ready to get back out again. 90300:45:52,541 --> 00:45:52,931Great. 90400:45:53,141 --> 00:45:53,411Great. 90500:45:53,411 --> 00:45:54,581Well, we'd love to have you up here. 90600:45:55,011 --> 00:45:55,301Yeah. 90700:45:56,366 --> 00:45:58,536Well it's, Gwen, been great talking to you, Corll. 90800:45:58,836 --> 00:45:59,556Really enjoyed it. 90900:45:59,796 --> 00:46:01,026Thanks so much for doing this. 91000:46:01,026 --> 00:46:02,076I really appreciate it. 91100:46:02,076 --> 00:46:02,296No worries. 91200:46:02,556 --> 00:46:03,306Absolutely. 91300:46:03,576 --> 00:46:06,156And congratulations on your Ukrainian stage benefit. 91400:46:06,156 --> 00:46:08,136I think it's great that you do something for the Ukraine. 91500:46:08,196 --> 00:46:09,006Oh, you saw that? Yeah. 91600:46:09,456 --> 00:46:11,826Today, 19 more deaths in the Ukraine. 91700:46:11,831 --> 00:46:12,076Yeah. 91800:46:12,616 --> 00:46:14,167this war has now been going on over a year. 91900:46:14,246 --> 00:46:17,856If it were a good white nation being bombed, we would've ended it in 20 minutes. 92000:46:18,356 --> 00:46:18,806I know. 92100:46:18,806 --> 00:46:24,566But the fact that it's Ukrainians that most of us don't know any, or, all people have to say is, oh, their president's kind of cute. 92200:46:24,566 --> 00:46:25,186It's like, whatever. 92300:46:25,186 --> 00:46:26,936But, people are dying. 92400:46:26,966 --> 00:46:33,151And the atrocities that Russia is committing are horrific and should not only be condemned by the world, but there should be action. 92500:46:33,761 --> 00:46:38,256we, the world NATO should call Putin and say, you stopped today, or We bomb the fuck outta St. 92600:46:38,256 --> 00:46:38,856Petersburg. 92700:46:39,346 --> 00:46:43,276and if you even dare threaten us with a nuclear weapon, we will have you assassinated. 92800:46:43,746 --> 00:46:45,596you'll wake up with a bullet between your head. 92900:46:45,626 --> 00:46:49,546Well, like you said, if it was a western European country, that's what we would've done immediately. 93000:46:49,646 --> 00:46:50,726That's exactly right. 93100:46:50,816 --> 00:46:51,716So it's Eastern European. 93200:46:51,716 --> 00:46:52,856It's, it's Eastern Europe. 93300:46:52,861 --> 00:46:57,666And, and our compassion only goes so far for people that we don't feel that we know or understand. 93400:46:57,986 --> 00:46:58,046Yeah. 93500:46:58,326 --> 00:46:59,796I am looking at Ukraine right now. 93600:46:59,796 --> 00:47:03,976I have a giant map on my wall here, and I, I, I know the complexities of it. 93700:47:03,976 --> 00:47:07,486I see what it borders, and I see how it, where Russia is and all of that. 93800:47:08,001 --> 00:47:08,991But that doesn't matter. 93900:47:09,201 --> 00:47:15,951What matters is they're killing innocent people and Americans have an, an easy way of looking away from that sort of thing. 94000:47:15,951 --> 00:47:19,43128 school children die and the next day we're onto something else. 94100:47:20,206 --> 00:47:23,656innocent people die in our country every single day at the hands. 94200:47:23,656 --> 00:47:28,186An Uber driver who's freaking dismembered for delivering Uber Eats really? So innocent. 94300:47:28,366 --> 00:47:28,786Oh yeah. 94400:47:28,786 --> 00:47:29,566Just two days ago. 94500:47:29,806 --> 00:47:33,566So innocent people die every day and we've become numb to it. 94600:47:33,926 --> 00:47:38,246And that's the most dangerous thing that's happened in today's society that we have now. 94700:47:38,246 --> 00:47:41,036We have now become numb to homelessness. 94800:47:41,546 --> 00:47:42,446We're just numb to it. 94900:47:42,446 --> 00:47:43,136It angers us. 95000:47:43,136 --> 00:47:43,346It does. 95100:47:43,676 --> 00:47:47,186Homelessness is a complete failure of government, and we are government. 95200:47:47,621 --> 00:47:49,751So that means that homelessness is our failure. 95300:47:50,081 --> 00:47:51,401It's, it's our failure. 95400:47:51,721 --> 00:47:54,001It's not their failure, it's our failure. 95500:47:54,391 --> 00:47:55,771It's unaffordable housing. 95600:47:55,771 --> 00:47:57,301It's no social safety net. 95700:47:57,601 --> 00:48:06,451It's all kinds of problems and not adequate mental healthcare, treating alcoholics or drug addicts like criminals instead of like people who have an actual medical disorder. 95800:48:07,181 --> 00:48:10,236you wouldn't treat cancer patients the way that you treat alcoholics. 95900:48:10,236 --> 00:48:11,076It's the same thing. 96000:48:11,256 --> 00:48:13,326It's a medical disorder in Europe. 96100:48:13,326 --> 00:48:25,747They register alcoholics, they register drug addicts as such, and when they get into these programs, they're not thrown out if they drink or if they do drugs because they're a registered drug addict, they're a registered alcoholic, so they're allowed over here. 96200:48:25,752 --> 00:48:30,726We like to tell poor people it will help you, but only if you live up to our conditions. 96300:48:31,226 --> 00:48:35,936Just now the bill that just went through with McCarthy, where they wanna raise the age for food benefits. 96400:48:35,936 --> 00:48:39,416They want to, make sure you're doing this or that before they give you food. 96500:48:39,596 --> 00:48:44,186The notion that we would put regulations on how to feed people just shows whether horrible people would become. 96600:48:44,386 --> 00:48:44,806Mm-hmm. 96700:48:45,006 --> 00:48:53,496And so the fact that we can turn away from the in chenia where there are gay con concentration camps going on right now, really watch the movie. 96800:48:53,496 --> 00:48:56,256Welcome to Chenia, which just came out last year. 96900:48:56,436 --> 00:49:00,456These are concentration camps used by Hitler that are now being used in Che. 97000:49:00,636 --> 00:49:02,076For suspected gaze. 97100:49:02,466 --> 00:49:06,906You don't hear the un denouncing it, you don't hear any, any riots over it. 97200:49:07,176 --> 00:49:11,496We are able now to turn a blind eye to so much that it's taken the human part of us out. 97300:49:11,926 --> 00:49:13,096And that's really sad. 97400:49:13,426 --> 00:49:18,106And so every time I hear about 19 dead in the Ukraine, I think that's 19 families. 97500:49:18,106 --> 00:49:19,036That's 19. 97600:49:19,041 --> 00:49:24,136Brothers and sisters and mothers, family, pets that are being killed and destroyed in all of this. 97700:49:24,496 --> 00:49:26,536It's just a huge loss of life and. 97800:49:27,041 --> 00:49:28,301We can't let up on it. 97900:49:28,301 --> 00:49:32,201We have to continue to remind people it's happening and that they need our help. 98000:49:32,201 --> 00:49:32,261Yeah. 98100:49:32,601 --> 00:49:41,191And so by doing your monthly stage thing, by talking about it, by putting it out there, you at least remind people that it's still going on, that people are still dying needlessly. 98200:49:41,671 --> 00:49:41,831Yeah. 98300:49:42,181 --> 00:49:44,186any little amount that anybody can do. 98400:49:44,186 --> 00:49:47,566If, if all of us just did a little bit, it would make a difference. 98500:49:47,566 --> 00:49:51,146And, I, I, I, I'm so happy that I have this vehicle where I can do that. 98600:49:51,146 --> 00:49:58,286And other people, whatever you can do, if you just do a little bit, if everybody did a little bit, it would make a huge difference. 98700:49:58,546 --> 00:49:59,986It's the same thing like with the diet. 98800:49:59,986 --> 00:50:02,116I said 50 bucks a month of cause of war. 98900:50:02,116 --> 00:50:05,926Cause of war is a charity that helps rescue animals. 99000:50:05,926 --> 00:50:08,026Right now they're working solely in the Ukraine. 99100:50:08,356 --> 00:50:08,536Yeah. 99200:50:08,566 --> 00:50:12,386And these are animals that have been dis displaced by war, right? Yeah. 99300:50:12,386 --> 00:50:14,846They, people flee and they leave their dogs and cats and everything behind. 99400:50:15,256 --> 00:50:15,977They just leave them behind. 99500:50:15,982 --> 00:50:17,511They incredible suffering. 99600:50:17,721 --> 00:50:19,726they have nowhere to get food, water. 99700:50:19,906 --> 00:50:23,006And so this organization, pa it's called Paws of War. 99800:50:23,226 --> 00:50:26,796They go in and they actually bring food, bring water, get the pets. 99900:50:27,206 --> 00:50:33,176Now we've made this ridiculous rule here in the United States that we don't let animals come into the United States from countries that have rabies. 100000:50:33,566 --> 00:50:36,656And so we can't adopt a pet from the Ukraine here. 100100:50:36,746 --> 00:50:41,306It has to go through Canada and then come to the United States, but they're doing it. 100200:50:41,356 --> 00:50:43,006And so we are helping. 100300:50:43,006 --> 00:50:48,526And so I know that's not helping humans, but there's a lot of agencies, red Cross and others that are helping humans. 100400:50:48,706 --> 00:50:53,456So I choose to help the animals because no one's helping those except cause of war. 100500:50:53,456 --> 00:50:54,626So that's why I support them. 100600:50:54,626 --> 00:50:56,156And besides Ember likes that I do it. 100700:50:56,156 --> 00:50:56,426So. 100800:50:58,646 --> 00:51:00,206I love that you love your little doggy. 100900:51:00,206 --> 00:51:01,406I have my mine isn't here. 101000:51:01,466 --> 00:51:02,186A little foxy. 101100:51:02,366 --> 00:51:06,866Well, I mean, she's a real service animal, so without her, my life would be completely different. 101200:51:06,866 --> 00:51:14,716And she works for me and, and, facilitates a life that makes it easier for me to go out and have a life. 101300:51:14,721 --> 00:51:14,896Yeah. 101400:51:15,086 --> 00:51:19,276Worried about AFib or I'm not worried about the various things that she can detect. 101500:51:19,786 --> 00:51:26,921And so, I used to panic when I was out and I, all of a sudden I'd feel I was going into AFib and I'd panic and mm-hmm. 101600:51:26,921 --> 00:51:31,391I, then we'd have to rush home and now that doesn't happen cuz she tells me in advance what's gonna happen. 101700:51:31,571 --> 00:51:33,581I'm able to medicate, I'm able to calm down. 101800:51:33,581 --> 00:51:35,801I'm able to remove myself from the situation for a moment. 101900:51:35,891 --> 00:51:35,981Mm-hmm. 102000:51:36,221 --> 00:51:39,801So she makes it possible for me to go out into the world more. 102100:51:40,161 --> 00:51:43,001So, it's not just that I love her, it's that. 102200:51:43,676 --> 00:51:44,576She's my partner. 102300:51:44,576 --> 00:51:45,886She's my partner in crime. 102400:51:45,886 --> 00:51:48,986And I'll be devastated when, when she passes. 102500:51:48,986 --> 00:51:53,516But the fact is that these service animals, they do a huge job for us. 102600:51:53,856 --> 00:51:59,106And we see people with them and we, oh, that's not a service animal, or, ah, what kind of service do they do? None of your fucking business. 102700:51:59,111 --> 00:52:00,486That's what kind of service they do. 102800:52:00,486 --> 00:52:01,156None of your business. 102900:52:02,276 --> 00:52:08,396It's amazing how these animals can get tied into our emotions before we know we're having them or, or physical states. 103000:52:08,456 --> 00:52:08,486Oh. 103100:52:08,486 --> 00:52:11,246Well, to our people, they're finding, they now can detect covid. 103200:52:11,246 --> 00:52:15,776They're, they're more accurate to detect breast cancer than the mammograms in Europe. 103300:52:15,776 --> 00:52:25,596Now, while they're using dogs to detect breast cancer when they're searching for whales out at sea, they have dogs that do it now because they can smell whale poop for four miles out at the open sea. 103400:52:25,866 --> 00:52:28,986So before sonar can even pick up whales, dogs can. 103500:52:29,226 --> 00:52:29,406Yeah. 103600:52:29,466 --> 00:52:30,961So yeah, no, they're, they're hu. 103700:52:31,111 --> 00:52:34,951Hugely intelligent, but so are pigs and so are cows. 103800:52:35,251 --> 00:52:35,341Yeah. 103900:52:35,341 --> 00:52:37,481And so I'm not a specious, that's why I'm a vegan. 104000:52:37,831 --> 00:52:41,161I had no idea how how much cows. 104100:52:41,996 --> 00:52:44,036Can be affectionate towards human beings. 104200:52:44,036 --> 00:52:45,596Until I've seen some videos I had. 104300:52:45,626 --> 00:52:46,286No, they mourn. 104400:52:46,286 --> 00:52:46,856They're dead. 104500:52:46,856 --> 00:52:48,866They, they, they mourn, they're dead. 104600:52:48,866 --> 00:52:50,786They, of course, they form bonds with humans. 104700:52:50,786 --> 00:52:51,356They, yeah. 104800:52:51,516 --> 00:52:53,906I, I follow many on Instagram that have accounts. 104900:52:53,906 --> 00:52:55,621Spuds what is it? Spud the bowl. 105000:52:55,871 --> 00:52:59,761He loves to play ball with his human and, oh no, the notion. 105100:53:00,771 --> 00:53:02,481Animals are sentient beings. 105200:53:02,481 --> 00:53:02,541Yeah. 105300:53:02,541 --> 00:53:03,651We act like they're not. 105400:53:03,981 --> 00:53:04,161Right. 105500:53:04,161 --> 00:53:04,761But they are. 105600:53:04,761 --> 00:53:05,721They have emotions. 105700:53:05,721 --> 00:53:08,271They have fe pigs know when they're going to be slaughtered. 105800:53:08,361 --> 00:53:08,421Yeah. 105900:53:08,451 --> 00:53:10,311They know when their babies are being taken. 106000:53:10,316 --> 00:53:13,971Cows are in terror when they're on the way into the slaughterhouse. 106100:53:13,976 --> 00:53:14,251Yeah. 106200:53:14,611 --> 00:53:16,856People eat tortured animals. 106300:53:16,856 --> 00:53:16,916Yeah. 106400:53:17,126 --> 00:53:18,926Because the animals knew they were going to die. 106500:53:19,691 --> 00:53:19,931Right. 106600:53:19,931 --> 00:53:19,991Yeah. 106700:53:20,281 --> 00:53:22,811So, so no, it's not just dogs. 106800:53:22,811 --> 00:53:23,561I love my dog. 106900:53:23,561 --> 00:53:24,161God bless her. 107000:53:24,161 --> 00:53:24,221Yeah. 107100:53:24,471 --> 00:53:27,061But all animals, we need to respect them all. 107200:53:27,066 --> 00:53:28,651I don't even kill insects anymore. 107300:53:28,861 --> 00:53:31,741Nothing should have the death penalty because it meets me. 107400:53:31,746 --> 00:53:32,021Yeah. 107500:53:32,341 --> 00:53:32,561Yes. 107600:53:32,621 --> 00:53:38,271If I see a bug, if I see a spider or if I see a bug roaming around, even a roach, whatever. 107700:53:38,331 --> 00:53:45,196I catch it and throw it outside because it's not up to me to decide if that creature lives or died just because it, it encountered me. 107800:53:45,826 --> 00:53:46,136Yeah. 107900:53:46,136 --> 00:53:47,541So, and the same with food. 108000:53:47,546 --> 00:53:50,271Nothing should have the death penalty because I have to eat. 108100:53:50,271 --> 00:53:51,051That's ridiculous. 108200:53:51,081 --> 00:53:52,341There's other things to eat now. 108300:53:52,671 --> 00:53:52,821Yeah. 108400:53:52,821 --> 00:53:58,101My son and I found a roach the other night and we two nights ago, and we picked it up and put her, put her outside. 108500:53:58,301 --> 00:53:58,591Right. 108600:53:58,591 --> 00:54:03,401That's, I mean, yeah, they're icky and they're gross or whatever, but they don't think we look that cute either. 108700:54:04,291 --> 00:54:05,241So, it's like it. 108800:54:05,601 --> 00:54:13,461I went in the other night and there was one in the sink because they come up through the, it's just natural for animals to come out, bugs to come out of your sewer pipes, Yeah. 108900:54:13,461 --> 00:54:15,961It just ha, it happens to Oprah, it happens to everybody. 109000:54:16,201 --> 00:54:16,431Yep. 109100:54:16,431 --> 00:54:20,421and I saw one in the sink and I got the glass and put it over it and I'm on. 109200:54:20,421 --> 00:54:21,681Now you stand her, that glass bitch. 109300:54:21,741 --> 00:54:25,461I mean, can And so, I took it out to the patio and threw it over. 109400:54:25,641 --> 00:54:29,091Now I do, I do live upstairs, so I do throw them over the patio. 109500:54:29,091 --> 00:54:30,411But bugs, they're fine. 109600:54:30,411 --> 00:54:31,191They drop to the ground. 109700:54:31,191 --> 00:54:31,791They don't die. 109800:54:32,031 --> 00:54:32,271No. 109900:54:32,271 --> 00:54:36,441I'm like, you're gonna, you're gonna go for a little, little short little fly here, and then you're gonna hit the ground. 110000:54:36,471 --> 00:54:37,341Maybe they enjoy it. 110100:54:37,341 --> 00:54:39,051Maybe it's like a rollercoaster, like a thrill ride. 110200:54:39,051 --> 00:54:39,791Maybe that's why they come back. 110300:54:40,061 --> 00:54:40,351Yeah. 110400:54:41,201 --> 00:54:43,761Let's run back up and get the pros out again. 110500:54:43,791 --> 00:54:44,751Yeah, that's exactly right. 110600:54:44,901 --> 00:54:45,021Yeah. 110700:54:45,651 --> 00:54:47,271I've created a bug Disneyland here. 110800:54:48,741 --> 00:54:49,311All right. 110900:54:49,701 --> 00:54:50,511Well, thanks a lot. 111000:54:50,871 --> 00:54:51,291You're welcome. 111100:54:51,951 --> 00:54:52,441Alright. 111200:54:52,731 --> 00:54:53,121Appreciate it. 111300:54:53,511 --> 00:54:53,751Okay. 111400:54:53,751 --> 00:54:54,621See you on the radio. 111500:54:54,711 --> 00:54:55,041Yep. 111600:54:55,161 --> 00:54:55,881Talk to you later. 111700:54:59,781 --> 00:55:00,946Carll is so interesting. 111800:55:00,951 --> 00:55:02,176I'm so glad he was on this show. 111900:55:02,176 --> 00:55:04,216I've been wanting to have him on for a long time. 112000:55:04,936 --> 00:55:08,956Very, very happy that he agreed to be a part of it. 112100:55:10,156 --> 00:55:13,606Hey, if you enjoy this show, please tell your friends. 112200:55:14,176 --> 00:55:17,696Say, Hey, check out Green Room On Air 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